Hot Dog Roast anyone???

[enis750]

well it was our annual REVY trip
as uaual it was socked in, snowing and this year the snow was DEEP!

wake up for day 2 and whats this!!???? blue skies???? SAWEEEEETTTTTTT!
it was turning out to be en epic day of shreddin pow, until........an unexpected "hot dog" roast occured

here is a pic exactly one hour before the incident

http://img691.imageshack.us/i/dsc03965.jpg/

so we decide to head down to the river bed and play down in the meadows there
there was a pretty steep right side hill to manouver, had to stop and help a buddy down
stopped, helped him then proceeded to head down
about 10 mins later, I go to use my brakes and nothing....*%@????

look down and there is 8" of flames coming out of the recoil handle hole in the side panel
there was a few 4 letter words that followed
after bailing snow on it for about 15-20 mins, it finally quit burning

this is the result........

http://img37.imageshack.us/i/dsc0636q.jpg/

http://img51.imageshack.us/i/dsc0638z.jpg/

http://img37.imageshack.us/i/dsc0645x.jpg/

needless to say, it is now at SGI for an estimate on the damage
I have no idea what they will do w it
my gut (and and hoping) is that they will write it off

anyone else experience this or seen it and what was the outcome?????

first question the dude at the dealer said, was "did u leave the brake on?"
NO...i did not, for SURE...it was on while helping my buddy down the hill, but I 100% for sure took it off before heading down myself

arrgghhh.......I literally put 60 miles on this sled <_<

maybe I will be upgrading to an XP sooner than I thought?????

 

[Summitric]

Does it still run? Had a good friend of ours leave her park brake on, on her rt1000 and similar happened. I saw one burn up, that had a brake fluid leak at the caliper where the hose attaches to the caliper...........

 

[99summitx]

Can't see them writing that off, did you ride it out?

 

[enis750]

Does it still run? Had a good friend of ours leave her park brake on, on her rt1000 and similar happened. I saw one burn up, that had a brake fluid leak at the caliper where the hose attaches to the caliper...........

yes
we dumped oil in the tank and ran pre-mix to get it out
had to pull start it off the primary though...what a pain that is

Can't see them writing that off, did you ride it out?

see above

 

[enis750]

is there any concerns with the tunnel being damaged?
how about the jackshaft, bearing, seal, chaincase, etc..???

there was a tonne of heat in there
I know aluminum has no memory, so is it comprimised and possibly weaker now???

I added up (roughly) the parts needed to get er back up and running

Without the tunnel - $2400CDN + labour (35% without labour)
With the tunnel - $3800CDN + labour (56% without labour)
--tunnel is approx. 24hrs labour @ $95/hr = an additional $2280 - this would put damages at $6080, which is 89% damages


SGI considers 75% damage a write off

If we assume the sled is worth $6800CDN (which is what the "blue book" says mine would be worth w only 1000 miles on it)

so i get it depends what they consider "damaged"
I am just scared of them missing something and getting stuck in the backcountry somewhere, cause they F'd up

 

[shoppingcart111]

Any idea what caused the actual fire? from the title I was excepting to see some hot dogs cooking, then I thought it was a hot dog cooker gone wrong (grease fire):d

 

[enis750]

Any idea what caused the actual fire? from the title I was excepting to see some hot dogs cooking, then I thought it was a hot dog cooker gone wrong (grease fire):d

not sure
like mentioned above, the dealr tech is trynig to tell me I left the parking brake on - I DID NOT

maybe it stuck, heated up then lemted the brake line
the brake fluid ignited the fire???

really not sure....

 

[polaris_killer]

sure looks like you left the brake on

 

[Sledderglen]

E Brake was on. Seen it before. Sorry but the end result fits the situation. We dont need CSI to figure that out. Dealears have seen before

 

[enis750]

sure looks like you left the brake on

E Brake was on. Seen it before. Sorry but the end result fits the situation. We dont need CSI to figure that out. Dealears have seen before

although it appears like it was (and it very well may have been) - I took it off
It must have stuck or something, or the lever was iced up - I don't doubt that

but I am 100% sure i released it, before descending down again - POSITIVE

whataver casued it, really I don't care...I just want to know what is going to happen with it.......
I have a trip planned to Fernie for X-Mas....so I need a sled!!!! hahahah! :d

 

[powder junkie]

cant see them replacing tunnel for that. dosnt look like it got that hot. only got a little melt spot on side panel. hope everythn works out for ya tho.

 

[magnet]

by lookin at the pics goota agree park brake was on gauranteed, not going to speculate whether it was left on or jammed on, as for repairs i say less than 1500 parts and labour will be the final bill does't look to be much damage there, and didn't get to hot as oil resovoir still had oil in it and if it would have been leaking bad you would have never put it out. give an update when you find out.

 

[Lanko]

Had this exact same thing happen to a 2006 Rev 800 going down the trail in Clemina buddy's sled, but had the pleasure of towing it out. My question is how can it be the parking brake being left on?, please enlighten me. It has been my experience when trying to ride with the parking brake on the sled doesn't move, I have damaged a belt leaving the p-brake on, but never burnt a sled down. My theory was oil reservoir damaged or leaking, oil cap not on properly, oil line leaking etc., onto exhaust creating ignition. Anyways final bill in damage came in at $3400, sled was fixed at Martin.

 

[powder junkie]

must be sum firefighters on this site that can tell us where it started

 

[silver fox]

I had a 2003 Rev shortrack that caught on fire under the hood as well....the dealer figured the engine backfired when we stopped for a break, then ignited the overflow lines for the fuel tank (which then vented under the hood)melted the oil lines off and in turn caused the engine to seize..too weird, but insurance covered it! I have yet to see a sled move with the e-brake on as well..you would for sure notice the drag if even if it did move..unless maybe oil had dripped on the brake disc and therefore allowed the sled to move because of lack of friction, then the oil ignited when it got hot!? I remember seeing posts on this same issue a couple of years ago, and it seems to me that there was some blaming to BRP about the oil tank/brake issue...

 

[Powertool29]

Had this exact same thing happen to a 2006 Rev 800 going down the trail in Clemina buddy's sled, but had the pleasure of towing it out. My question is how can it be the parking brake being left on?, please enlighten me. It has been my experience when trying to ride with the parking brake on the sled doesn't move, I have damaged a belt leaving the p-brake on, but never burnt a sled down. My theory was oil reservoir damaged or leaking, oil cap not on properly, oil line leaking etc., onto exhaust creating ignition. Anyways final bill in damage came in at $3400, sled was fixed at Martin.

I agree.. The belt would have been damaged with wear spots on the belt and it would have a kerthump everytime the belt went around.
Plus the sled would not have moved anywhere with the brake on.
Its not because of the brake.

 

[enis750]

I had a 2003 Rev shortrack that caught on fire under the hood as well....the dealer figured the engine backfired when we stopped for a break, then ignited the overflow lines for the fuel tank (which then vented under the hood)melted the oil lines off and in turn caused the engine to seize..too weird, but insurance covered it! I have yet to see a sled move with the e-brake on as well..you would for sure notice the drag if even if it did move..unless maybe oil had dripped on the brake disc and therefore allowed the sled to move because of lack of friction, then the oil ignited when it got hot!? I remember seeing posts on this same issue a couple of years ago, and it seems to me that there was some blaming to BRP about the oil tank/brake issue...

funny how on the new XP's they moved the brake to the OPPOSITE side of the sled hey????
they wont come forward to say there was an issue, but instead fix it on the XP

as mentioned before, the sled drove pefrectly fine, so clunk sounds, no resistance or drag

Im tellin you guys, something else happened, as I KNOW I did NOT leave the brake on
unless it stuck on somehow........couldnt tell ya man

I agree.. The belt would have been damaged with wear spots on the belt and it would have a kerthump everytime the belt went around.
Plus the sled would not have moved anywhere with the brake on.
Its not because of the brake.

the belt is in MINT condition, no wear spots, the clutches also show no sign of excessive belt rubbage (is that a word?? hahah)
I drove the sled down the hill, the track was moving and not locked up at all

 

[magnet]

it's one of those things that makes you go hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[blastoff]

Yes I think as said earlier with the brake u would have noticed and smelt or felt the belt holding up, she is unrelated to the brake in my opinon. Possibly a oil leak but oil flashpoint is quite high some one should know that here for flash point.
Honestly If I am ever in the situation with like this with ins. coverage I will let her burn. sorry but in the end than it is a no brainer TOASTED..

 

[Summitric]

Seen several sleds that have burned up..... Drivers never noticed.... The ski-doo has several notches on the brake lever, and if it is on lightly, you won't even hardly notice it..... Especially happens on trails, while slower trail riding....damage looks very similar to this damage. Also a sticking brake caliper or defective master cylinder can cause the brake system to partially stay engaged and as a result, overheating and of course - fire!