Muskoka Freerider

[Lunch_Box]

Yup those g4 tracks werent great for durability

Alpha tracks dont like the high speeds on the trail either. But most tall lug tracks dont favour high speeds on a groomed trail in freezing temps.

 

[lilduke]

Alpha tracks dont like the high speeds on the trail either. But most tall lug tracks dont favour high speeds on a groomed trail in freezing temps.

T3 track holds up good. Sled is pretty dated though.

 

[maxwell]

Hahaha, you believe the RT because it came up with Tex was my last blow up LOL, that baby blew up twice and no it wasn't.
Hey, I burnt down a few Phazer motors back in the 80's too hahaha.
Lost count on Cat cranks in the 90's.
Then switched from pistons one season to cranks the next on my Doo's from 2000-2010
Now I split the service between a 2 stroke and 4 stroke depending on conditions, hardest part is adapting for the ride LOL.
BTW. selling my 18 Cat, gently rode, moving to a 23 9R.
The 18 is OLD TECH....hahaha

oh you haven't had luck with 2 strokes? a 9R would definitely be my first choice for reliability when getting back into the 2 stroke game

 

[sledneck__11]

Xm 3 inch bulletproof g4/g5 3 inch is dog ch!t but some weight back into the track lol

 

[JMCX]

Alpha tracks dont like the high speeds on the trail either. But most tall lug tracks dont favour high speeds on a groomed trail in freezing temps.

My Alpha track made it 8000km i rode fast a lot. Broken rods condemned it.

 

[Shredder]

Are tracks really that chitty these days?

Doesn't matter the brand/year......etc. These 3" and now 3.25" tracks will only be as good to you as you are to them. Spin them up a drainage in low snow over stumps/rocks/logs and frozen dirt and accept that you are wrecking that track. Ride up and down the trails like it's a snocross race and accept that you are wrecking your track. I do 50-60 kms/h up and down the trails and smile as guys go ripping past me wfo. I have about 1500 kms on my track and burn all the loose strands off I can get to with a mini torch after every trip; track still looks like brand new.......hmmmmm.

 

[lilduke]

Doesn't matter the brand/year......etc. These 3" and now 3.25" tracks will only be as good to you as you are to them. Spin them up a drainage in low snow over stumps/rocks/logs and frozen dirt and accept that you are wrecking that track. Ride up and down the trails like it's a snocross race and accept that you are wrecking your track. I do 50-60 kms/h up and down the trails and smile as guys go ripping past me wfo. I have about 1500 kms on my track and burn all the loose strands off I can get to with a mini torch after every trip; track still looks like brand new.......hmmmmm.

Doesnt sound ideal lol

Rubber must be too expensive or something....

Guess if i order a new sled, better order a couple spare tracks at the same time

 

[FranktheTank]

Are tracks really that chitty these days?

I don’t think they are. “Track issues”have shown up in the last 4-5 years. What’s changed? Everyone rides turbos, short tunnels and 3” paddles.

Skidoo since the 3” paddle was stock on summits had started putting it in the manual 2 pages worth of warnings for trail racers that states no prolonged riding over 45mph or tracks will delaminate. 3” lugs heat up on prolonged riding of hard ice pack trails. Never exceed 60mph on 3” paddles etc etc. how many guys forget to put their scratchers down?

Shorter tunnels mean more guys pulling on sides of trail and spinning their tracks for cooling (rocks, trees, branches) Pin and wiggle since the short tunnel makes a quick way of getting unstuck or preventing a stuck terrible snow conditions means rocks, trees ripping the track.

Everyone blames the track when I would say it’s operator fault. But as with everything it’s never the operators fault the machine failed


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[The Kickass One]

oh you haven't had luck with 2 strokes? a 9R would definitely be my first choice for reliability when getting back into the 2 stroke game



Fauck that’s funny!!

 

[lilduke]

I don’t think they are. “Track issues”have shown up in the last 4-5 years. What’s changed? Everyone rides turbos, short tunnels and 3” paddles.

Skidoo since the 3” paddle was stock on summits had started putting it in the manual 2 pages worth of warnings for trail racers that states no prolonged riding over 45mph or tracks will delaminate. 3” lugs heat up on prolonged riding of hard ice pack trails. Never exceed 60mph on 3” paddles etc etc. how many guys forget to put their scratchers down?

Shorter tunnels mean more guys pulling on sides of trail and spinning their tracks for cooling (rocks, trees, branches) Pin and wiggle since the short tunnel makes a quick way of getting unstuck or preventing a stuck terrible snow conditions means rocks, trees ripping the track.

Everyone blames the track when I would say it’s operator fault. But as with everything it’s never the operators fault the machine failed


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My sled is a pos. Haha

 

[Lund]

oh you haven't had luck with 2 strokes? a 9R would definitely be my first choice for reliability when getting back into the 2 stroke game

I know, stupid me, I should know better those SkiDoo's are SUPERDUPPER.
I wouldn't want to waste that 50% usage it would share.
BTW, don't exactly know what's meant by back in the 2stroke game when when I never left. My 18 running on its second top end and 3800kms now, oh crap, its a Cat not a Doo, stupid me.

 

[oler1234]

Are tracks really that chitty these days?

5000km, no missing paddles bud… you tell me.

Doesn't matter the brand/year......etc. These 3" and now 3.25" tracks will only be as good to you as you are to them. Spin them up a drainage in low snow over stumps/rocks/logs and frozen dirt and accept that you are wrecking that track. Ride up and down the trails like it's a snocross race and accept that you are wrecking your track. I do 50-60 kms/h up and down the trails and smile as guys go ripping past me wfo. I have about 1500 kms on my track and burn all the loose strands off I can get to with a mini torch after every trip; track still looks like brand new.......hmmmmm.

Very good discription.

Let me add track speeds are way up with turbos guys. 15yrs ago that was the peak for most 08 summit x’s for sustained mountain riding. Now my 175 while screwing around can see and sustain 95km/hr. Big difference, this is where the real damage is done.

 

[lilduke]

5000km, no missing paddles bud… you tell me.


Very good discription.

Let me add track speeds are way up with turbos guys. 15yrs ago that was the peak for most 08 summit x’s for sustained mountain riding. Now my 175 while screwing around can see and sustain 95km/hr. Big difference, this is where the real damage is done.

1 guy saying they are great, and 100 saying they are chit.. guess ill have to decide for myself.


If it cant go 100kmh down the trail id lean towards they are chit.


How many blown engines in 5000km?

 

[Caper11]

The T3 track was a very durable one. The 3.5” pitch tracks are easily damaged, and dont take the abuse the 3.0” pitch tracks did, more lugs, less stress on the lug with the 3.0, but they were alot heavier in design.

It is more of the operator that causes track damage, ride early season and thats the increased risk of damage.

I wonder how many tracks kusters fleet goes through a season now? The Two piece driveshaft design definitely helps his mechanics do a quick swap.


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[lilduke]

Light weight is great until you need to baby the thing....

 

[Shredder]

Light weight is great until you need to baby the thing....

True about the whole sled; not just the tracks.

 

[lilduke]

True about the whole sled; not just the tracks.

Ya but for the 2 days a season the conditions are perfect look out

 

[neilsleder]

1 guy saying they are great, and 100 saying they are chit.. guess ill have to decide for myself.


If it cant go 100kmh down the trail id lean towards they are chit.


How many blown engines in 5000km?

Yup they’re great tracks last forever if you leave it in the garage lol. Very few G4’s forsake that don’t have a new track or engine or both.

 

[oler1234]

1 guy saying they are great, and 100 saying they are chit.. guess ill have to decide for myself.


If it cant go 100kmh down the trail id lean towards they are chit.


How many blown engines in 5000km?

0 blown motors, just chugs oil and gas.

 

[JMCX]

Doesn't matter the brand/year......etc. These 3" and now 3.25" tracks will only be as good to you as you are to them. Spin them up a drainage in low snow over stumps/rocks/logs and frozen dirt and accept that you are wrecking that track. Ride up and down the trails like it's a snocross race and accept that you are wrecking your track. I do 50-60 kms/h up and down the trails and smile as guys go ripping past me wfo. I have about 1500 kms on my track and burn all the loose strands off I can get to with a mini torch after every trip; track still looks like brand new.......hmmmmm.

You're not living up to your user name lol