BC, what have you done???? NDP is gonna take you down, big time

[Stompin Tom]

Oh no, your calling me names, my feelings are getting hurt, Im going to need to go to counselling to get my self esteem back.

Once again you can only speculate and dont provide facts, "if you take time to cruise the bc hydro website" you say, how about posting a link to your facts. The 2 dams that arent producing power? You mean the two dams that never had hydro generating abilities and were built to hold water, not produce electricity? They will never produce power at the site of the dam, they were build to increase water storage for other dams to use when the water levels were getting low. Gee, another FACT that you never bothered to post.

Your right full of he said, she said but dont bother to read or understand the facts. Oh gosh darn BC Hydro has two dams that they aren't even producing power yet you dont bother to read on to find out that they were never built to produce power.[/QUOTE
Perhaps ask your mother to read it for you]

Because you demand links and to you nothing is right unless it's in the web

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.desmog.ca

Built: 1924

Generating capacity: 12 MW

Elko is not currently generating electricity. In 2014, BC Hydro asked Columbia Power to conduct a study of options for Elko Dam & Generating Station. In April 2016, BC Hydro decided to defer the Elko redevelopment project.

Our forecasts show that we won't need the additional energy by the in-service date of the proposed redevelopment project, and that we won't need it for some years after. When we have a need for additional energy, and as part of our Integrated Resource Plan process, we plan to revisit the redevelopment options for the Elko facility.

so you come up with a decommissioned dam who's equipment has reached the end of its service life and needs to be rebuilt to be able to be put back into service? Do you understand how little 12MW of power is and how much capital they would have to invest to bring this back on line? It was determined that the capital needed would be much better spent on Site C for a modern development rather than spending good money after bad?

You do understand the difference between sitting idle and decomissioned? Sitting idle implies you flick a switch and its back on line, decomissioned means it is unusable in its current state.

http://columbiapower.org/projects/elko/

 

[Stompin Tom]

Site C is expected to have a peak capacity of 1100 MW and an average output of 680MW and SWAT thinks its wiser to invest in an outdated max 12MW output dam?

 

[X-it]

Lots of Co-Gen plants have been built in the last 10 years, lots produce power from burning wood waste. When the fiber runs out and the Co-gen plants go down that is going to be a big problem, not for dee and dumb though. They have no clue

 

[S.W.A.T.]

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4074750
https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/05/03/Do-We-Need-Site-C-Dam/
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...ite-c-ubc-report/article34757233/?service=amp

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Site C is expected to have a peak capacity of 1100 MW and an average output of 680MW and SWAT thinks its wiser to invest in an outdated max 12MW output dam?

Your putting words in my mouth.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Lots of Co-Gen plants have been built in the last 10 years, lots produce power from burning wood waste. When the fiber runs out and the Co-gen plants go down that is going to be a big problem, not for dee and dumb though. They have no clue

Co-gen plants are built to help offset industry cost because hydro rates are so damn high, perhaps if site C meant cheaper power for bc there would be a better argument but hydro has raised rates every year and it's getting crazy

 

[rzrgade]

I think we are getting way off topic ...
The point is the NDP gov with a greenie influence is going to kill the BC economy for years to come . Like it did in the past ....
Hopefully some MLA sees this and crosses the floor and you have another election .
In terms of big business of any sort .. there is zero confidence in an NDP government / because they will always allow a handful of radical protesters to dictate public policy .
Thus making it economically unfeasible .

That is the NDP way , they destroy investor confidence among other things ...

Also , say goodbye to your riding areas , because just like inAlberta they will start closing them down ..
Regardless of what the majority of people want . Or the economic hardship that this causes....

They are a self appointed dictator of our social lifestyle ...
Yes I hate the NDP .

 

[X-it]

No info on the cogen plants, but on the BC hydo map there is, 24 plants in all, then you have to add them all up. totaling 585 mw. Then you would have to go individual and see how much they are putting back into the system. Something dee and dumb are to stupid do. BC hydro is the cheapest rates for in all of Canada, if you know enough to stay out of stage two power. They even have team power smart that shows your usage for every minute and pay you money if you drop your usage by 10% for the year. I have met that goal three years running totaling 70% power reduction and getting 3, 75 dollar cheques from them for doing it.

 

[X-it]

We are not really off topic because if they kill site C dam, this is the biggest thing BC has going for us right now.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

We are not really off topic because if they kill site C dam, this is the biggest thing BC has going for us right now.

So postpone it until it is actually needed

 

[X-it]

That would be next year, and the dam takes 5 years to build

 

[X-it]

This was printed in 2010 before the electric car Craze

 

[LID]

Some in the Taylor and FSJ areas are experiencing sketchy power reliability, I heard that some areas are near 100% capacity.
No research involved, just landowners mentioning blackouts.
That may not be the dam, may be distribution bottlenecks

 

[52weekbreak]

Saw an interesting article that reinforces the cancellation of the LNG project was all based on diminishing returns.



Makes sense to me. Always based on dollars in the end.

 

[snochuk]

Saw an interesting article that reinforces the cancellation of the LNG project was all based on diminishing returns.



Makes sense to me. Always based on dollars in the end.

When you drag your political azz and block coprorate expansion sellin raw material/resources (news flash: this is what Canada does) you get project cancellations. No other BS explanations required.

When LNG Projects said let's go you dam well better go.
You can be a dick later and bring in more stringent regs but for FFS you could have had a chit load of long term jobs already and now you got jack chit.
Got no corporate taxes, Indians got no freebees, middle class got no job to support everybody else and the corps don't even have marginal profits cause tree hugging political azhats dragged there heels and did their best to make life difficult for progress.
And somehow in lala land it's gonna get better?
Your grandchildren will hate you for the tab they are going to inherit.
I'm all for green power and I'm in the dirty oil business but FFS make sure the new system is up and running first before you distroy the existing system.
Good luck my BC neighbors.....you're gonna need it.

 

[rzrgade]

And I thought I was the only one who hated the NDP
Lol

 

[snochuk]

And I thought I was the only one who hated the NDP
Lol

Hate is a strong word my friend........and I hate stupid people in general.

Presently provincial NDP and federal Liberals are head and shoulders above anybody else!!

 

[LennyR]

When you drag your political azz and block coprorate expansion sellin raw material/resources (news flash: this is what Canada does) you get project cancellations. No other BS explanations required.

When LNG Projects said let's go you dam well better go.
You can be a dick later and bring in more stringent regs but for FFS you could have had a chit load of long term jobs already and now you got jack chit.
Got no corporate taxes, Indians got no freebees, middle class got no job to support everybody else and the corps don't even have marginal profits cause tree hugging political azhats dragged there heels and did their best to make life difficult for progress.
And somehow in lala land it's gonna get better?
Your grandchildren will hate you for the tab they are going to inherit.
I'm all for green power and I'm in the dirty oil business but FFS make sure the new system is up and running first before you distroy the existing system.
Good luck my BC neighbors.....you're gonna need it.

One of the best and most accurate posts in this thread .

 

[X-it]

We have been here before, not sure why everyones memory got so bad from the last episode. Factoring in all the mines they closed down last go around we should have enough power. More government workers + increased social and welfare - thousands of real jobs = Lots of debt. Simplified math for greenies

 

[rzrgade]

While the energy sector is important ,if they ruin the housing market ..
That will be the nail in the coffin ...
That is huge , particularly in BC