2017 Skidoo Summit?

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A 850 maybe. Caught this on Facebook earlier.

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It says on there Facebook page they will announce that sometime today I guess?
 

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Yeah WTF I thought the 800 etec was 163.9HP :confused:

Sounds like a pretty wicked engine though!
 

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BRP never claimed 163 hp. It's been shown dozens of times that claim was from an independent dyno. They even state that. Read the fine print. Dyno tech has run them from 155-158hp several times since that hopped up 2010.5 sled was run.

Doesn't mean they can't make 163+ from the etec they just detune them to give you the 3-4 warranty. A little timing advance on the etec does wonders!

165 is 10hp more. Makes sense.




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BRP never claimed 163 hp. It's been shown dozens of times that claim was from an independent dyno. They even state that. Read the fine print. Dyno tech has run them from 155-158hp several times since that hopped up 2010.5 sled was run.

Doesn't mean they can't make 163+ from the etec they just detune them to give you the 3-4 warranty. A little timing advance on the etec does wonders!

165 is 10hp more. Makes sense.




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I always felt that citing the independent dyno test was more about saying "look how much power it made, they're independent so we aren't inflating the numbers." as opposed to avoiding liability.
 

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I always felt that citing the independent dyno test was more about saying "look how much power it made, they're independent so we aren't inflating the numbers." as opposed to avoiding liability.
That same independent dyno might show 173.9hp on the new motor....lol
 

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Can I calculate the horsepower loss at altitude for my snowmobile?
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HP Loss = (elevation x 0.03 x horsepower @ sea level)/1000
Now, let’s also assume you have a 150-horsepower snowmobile engine in your sled. The Horsepower Loss is going to be equal to 6000 times .03 times 150 divided by 1000 or a loss of 27 horsepower. That’s roughly an 18 % loss of power which is noticeable in both the feel and sound of your snowmobile’s powerplant. So, always take the time to test your sled’s performance before tackling big jumps or slope-side moguls to prevent coming up short.
If you’re headed up the mountain for a competitive snowcross or freestyle-snowmobile event, you will also need to consider the normal atmospheric conditions such as the relative humidity, ambient temperature and barometric pressure changes. Adjustments made to the carburetor or fuel injector can help offset some of the “Horsepower Loss at Altitude”. In addition, a local dealership may have a hot setup for adjusting your snowmobile’s intake and exhaust-port timing as well as a recommendation for the best octane rating for your racing fuel.
Don’t forget. If you’re looking for a hot tip, are Born to Burn. Our snowmobile replacement plugs provide one of the strongest flame fronts of all high performance spark plugs on the market today. Check your local auto parts or discount store; or shop online at an authorized E3 dealer for your Arctic Cat, Polaris, Yamaha or Ski-Doo snowmobile plugs.


Are you selling spark plugs? Lol

What does that have anything to do with BRP using someone's dyno result as marketing?

It's just marketing. Sure yeah look those guys got 163 hp. I didn't see a screen shot of that dyno report though. Must not be true.



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