Road couple weeks ago - Have 2008 800XP - 163 clutched , head, can and geared. Ran with a few stock 11 etec , 154, 163s, an 08Xp stock and a 10XP. Also a 09 M1000. Snow was very heavy/wet - great traction. My sled ran very well against the other XPs , the etecs were comparable , but stock except for cans. On a climb I could pull away from the etecs , 08 /10 XP were also stock and were way behind. The m1000 153 was ahead but should be with the mods it had - claimed 200hp. My question is I know the etecs should be better - but there were stock , so if you clutched and increased hp a bit would the etecs be that much better than what I'm running. My delema 2012 or not?