This years dyno HP numbers.

[niner]

I see your 167 hp and raise you 200 hp more.

 

[Teth-Air]

I see your 167 hp and raise you 200 hp more.[/QUOTE

If they're so great why don't more guys want to ride them? My Cummins has more HP than your Yamaha too but I don't want to take it through the trees either.

 

[Pedaling pete]

I see your 167 hp and raise you 200 hp more.[/QUOTE

If they're so great why don't more guys want to ride them? My Cummins has more HP than your Yamaha too but I don't want to take it through the trees either.

Why did Bruce Jenner want to wear a dress and cut his dic off?

 

[AreWeThereYet]

Why did Bruce Jenner want to wear a dress and cut his dic off?

Cause he wanted a better chance at picking up dudes that ride Yamaha's.

 

[Pedaling pete]

Cause he wanted a better chance at picking up dudes.

Exactly. Same reason people ride 2 stroke sleds.

 

[takethebounce]

Fine print on the advertised Doo number was "by an independent company". Right in the brochures and advertising ads.

I know that. I tried to tell people for many years that number wasn’t from Doo and it was an inflated number. Eventually you let them continue drinking the doolaide. Lol

FYI damn cold for biking.

 

[snopro]

I know that. I tried to tell people for many years that number wasn’t from Doo and it was an inflated number. Eventually you let them continue drinking the doolaide. Lol

FYI damn cold for biking.

To damn cold for combining to! Hope you are enjoying that bike!

 

[Pistonbroke]

How about we change this topic to "Power to Weight" ratios?

Oh, I guess Polaris even looks better, even with stock HP.

I ran the numbers last year, Yamaha was the top performer at sea level and the far and away winner at altitude.

 

[jpmez69]

I ran the numbers last year, Yamaha was the top performer at sea level and the far and away winner at altitude.

I'll stick with my 2 stroke, I like to smell like a chainsaw.

 

[snochuk]

9 page of arguing over posted, reposted, old fake posting, justification of what ever posting and fake news.

"WE ARE A BITCHIN KINDA CROWD"

 

[lilduke]

9 page of arguing over posted, reposted, old fake posting, justification of what ever posting and fake news.

"WE ARE A BITCHIN KINDA CROWD"

More fun than arguing over Donald Trump and NAFTA isn't it?

 

[Caper11]

More fun than arguing over Donald Trump and NAFTA isn't it?

Lol at least we have control over HP increases.

 

[takethebounce]

9 page of arguing over posted, reposted, old fake posting, justification of what ever posting and fake news.

"WE ARE A BITCHIN KINDA CROWD"

You haven’t seen anything. Go on any of the other “popular” forums and see what gets argued about lol.

At least guys here put all differences aside and go out and kill snowflakes together no matter what they ride. We even met Yamaha guys come once or twice.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

You haven’t seen anything. Go on any of the other “popular” forums and see what gets argued about lol.

At least guys here put all differences aside and go out and kill snowflakes together no matter what they ride. We even met Yamaha guys come once or twice.

The guys on the other sites trail ride 95% and its who can go the fastest in a corner without dying.

 

[takethebounce]

The guys on the other sites trail ride 95% and its who can go the fastest in a corner without dying.

I thought it was who could do the longest wheelie

 

[Rotax_Kid]

Crank horsepower numbers are nice to know, but it's unfortunate more power can't be found through driveline. Like big gains - 56-59% efficiency is depressing. If 5 points could be gained, that means the motor would have to be produce 12-14hp less and still remain competitive while likely improving reliability. It amazes me no one has found something in here despite the theory of CVT use on a snowmobile has been in play for about 50 years now with relatively few changes.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

I thought it was who could do the longest wheelie

Ya that too

 

[takethebounce]

Crank horsepower numbers are nice to know, but it's unfortunate more power can't be found through driveline. Like big gains - 56-59% efficiency is depressing. If 5 points could be gained, that means the motor would have to be produce 12-14hp less and still remain competitive while likely improving reliability. It amazes me no one has found something in here despite the theory of CVT use on a snowmobile has been in play for about 50 years now with relatively few changes.

Sometimes the simplicity of the system outweighs any of the current advances in technology.

Multi ratio and angle helix’s with varying cam angles and roller differences along with spring combos allow the user to fine tune arguably what is the smoothest action for almost any comparable modern drive system.

The theory of torque and rpm sensing driven and drive clutches is the same but these are not the Comets of yesteryears.

 

[Teth-Air]

Crank horsepower numbers are nice to know, but it's unfortunate more power can't be found through driveline. Like big gains - 56-59% efficiency is depressing. If 5 points could be gained, that means the motor would have to be produce 12-14hp less and still remain competitive while likely improving reliability. It amazes me no one has found something in here despite the theory of CVT use on a snowmobile has been in play for about 50 years now with relatively few changes.

We need to go electric drive to get best efficiency. A high revving tiny, light motor turning a alternator that is constantly charging a lightweight lithium battery. massive torque and speed with no clutch.

 

[ferniesnow]

Do you guys think the insignificance gains of HP really matters? Whether it is presumed to be 10% or whatever.

I don't think along those lines but rather the significance of talent. Not saying I've got some/lots but rather the talent factor seems to play a bigger part than the HP factor. Everybody seems to get their panties in a knot over HP (or presumed HP). When you get the sled on the snow, one rider will definitely out perform another because of talent and not the 10% difference in HP.