Full synthetic or Half???

[Linkz]

Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice?

 

[catmando]

My reasoning on that is no synthetic,Diesels usually get a half of million miles with regular oil,Why would you waste your money.
My Two Cents
catmando!

 

[BIGFOOT]

Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice?

Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?

 

[catmando]

Opps,I just assumed it was diesel!
catmando!

 

[Linkz]

Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?

I have no shelter for my truck so it will be exposed to what winter has to offer as the wifes truck takes the garage and of course the sleds take the other half, also when i go out of town to work sometimes there are no electrical outlets available. My thoughts on the three choices are mixed, conventional oil sucks in cold weather and blend synthetic i know nothing about, i did hear that full synthetic does not hold the sludge as well as conventional so it does not drain out when changing oil (so i hear), which is why a blended mixture was made. And to answer Catmando, it is a diesel.

 

[Garryese]

Full synthetic in everything. I've rebuilt too many engines that didn't have sythetic oil and only three that have. The three all have the same story; punctured cooling system and driven until the engine seals melted out and I drove all three onto the lift after refilling with oil.

Synthetic oil with diesels will help significantly with cold starts.

 

[Summitric]

Before You Begin Switching Oils.... How Many Clicks On Your '08??? You Must Have At Least 15000kms On A Ford 6.6l Before You Consider Switch To Synthetics/blends, Because The Engine Has To Seat The Piston Rings To The Cylinders Properly(broken In, Is The Common Term). A Dodge Should Even Be More, Because The Cylinders Are So Hard. 15w40 Is Good Oil To Break An Engine In(one Of The Best Is Our Own Petro-canada Duron Oil), And Good Synthetic Is 5w40 Synthetic(again One Of The Best Is Petro-canada's Duron Synthetic). I Could Go On Forever On This Topic, But Like Katkantdoadoo Said Above; A Good Diesel With Consistant Good Quality Regular Diesel Oil Will Go 1/2 A Million Miles Before Any Internal Maintenance Is Required. You're Right In 5w40 Synthetic Will Allow Better Cold Starts, And I Am Switching My New Dodge Diesel To 5w40 Duron Synthetic On My Next Oil Change. I Could Send You Books/articles On This If You Really Want, But I Would Stick To Your Original Thought And Either Use Regular 15w40 Or Jump Into The Synthetic(no Need For Blends In A Diesel) If You Have Enough Mileage On Your Truck Already. Just My 30 Years Experience And 2cents Worth......

 

[OVERKILL 19]

I run AMSOIL in everything. I change my oil once a year depending on how dirty it is but usally its 9 to 12 mounths so in reality its cheaper for me anyways. As far as reg vs Synthetic, ever had a 1950's to 1980's pick-up with a farmer 4sp with a gear drive t-case in -25C. Hard to shift for the first 10-15 miles its so stiff, switch to Synthetic and you will notice the differance. I used to run JD hydro/Synthetic in my 4sd and tcase in my 72chev. Now I use amsoil in everything due to I get it pretty cheap.

 

[teamgreen]

Hey Overkill,
where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck

 

[Summitric]

See Ronknight111(big Cheese On This Site).... He's An Amsoil Distributor(i Think He'll Have Some Product At The Sled Show. Pm Him With What You're Looking For!!!

 

[OVERKILL 19]

Hey Overkill,
where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck

My brother "J-Man" owns a oil service company in Red Deer which he runs Amsoil in everything, he buys it by the barrel. Last year we bought a barrel of DOMINATOR 2 stroke oil, it worked out to about $8/ liter.

 

[rknight111]

I can get you amsoil at a very reasonable price, You can either look on the amsoil site AMSOIL Corporate Website - Product Information there is alot of info there for you to look through. When you find what you want PM me and I can get you a price. I live in sherwood park so I can meet you.

 

[NosRX1]

Summitric can I run 5w40 synthetic in my 01 24valve dodge? Or will it hurt that engine....it has 345,000km on it so I am sure it is broke in now. Although it would be a same to be leaking that pricy oil...lol!

 

[rknight111]

Summitric can I run 5w40 synthetic in my 01 24valve dodge? Or will it hurt that engine....it has 345,000km on it so I am sure it is broke in now. Although it would be a same to be leaking that pricy oil...lol!

I would run this Amsoil
Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy-Duty Diesel Oil (HDD)

Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy-Duty Diesel Oil (HDD)

I can see what I can get a case for you for. I can also get a filter for you

Here is some info is this your truck?

2001 DODGE TRUCKS RAM 3500 PICKUP 5.9L 6-cyl Engine Code 6 24-valve TurboDiesel

FILTERS
Oil Filter.........EAO80 Absolute Efficiency Oil FilterOil Filter.........ELF7349 ELF7349 Donaldson Endurance Oil FilterOil Filter.........51607 WIX 51607 Oil Filter (O) Air Filter.........EAA106 AMSOIL Ea Air FilterAir Filter.........46272 WIX 46272 Air Filter (O) Fuel Filter.......P550430 P550430 Fuel Filter (O) Trans Filter.....58613 WIX 58613 Auto Tran Filter (O)

LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil
Grade 1......CI-4
SAE 15W-40 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Motor Oil
Synthetic Blend 15W-40 Diesel Oil
Synthetic 5W-40 Premium Diesel Oil
Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
-18 To -1°F......10W-30
-23 To -18°F......10W-30[1]
-23 To -18°F......5W-30[2]
Above 10°F......15W-40
Manual Transmission,NV1500.....GLS[3]
AMSOIL Synthetic Synchromesh Transmission Fluid
Manual Transmission,NV5600.....GLS[3]
AMSOIL Synthetic Synchromesh Transmission Fluid
Manual Transmission,NV3500.....GLS[3]
AMSOIL Synthetic Synchromesh Transmission Fluid
Automatic Transmission.....AP4[4]
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Standard Differential, Front Dana 44 & 60.....GL-5
All Temps......80W-90
SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Controlled Slip Differential, Rear 8.25-9.25 Axles.....GL-5*[5]
All Temps......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
Standard Differential, Rear 8.25-9.25 Axles.....GL-5
All Temps......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Severe Gear 75W-110
Controlled Slip Differential, Rear Dana 60, 70, 80.....GL-5*[5]
All Temps......90
SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Severe Gear 75W-90
Standard Differential, Rear Dana 60, 70, 80.....GL-5
All Temps......90
SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Controlled Slip Differential, Rear Others.....GL-5*[5]
All Temps......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
Standard Differential, Rear Others.....GL-5
All Temps......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Severe Gear 75W-110
Transfer Case,.....AP4
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Fluids
Power Steering Fluid.....PS
Brake Fluid.....HB
Clutch Fluid.....HB

1. -23 to -18 recommendation is for vehicles
with engine block heater.
2. Recommendation is for synthetic oil when not using a
block heater.
3. GLS is a special gear lube, Mopar part no. 04874464.
4. DaimlerChrysler Corp. recommends that all vehicles with
Chrysler ATS be serviced W/ ATF+4
ATF.
5. With controlled slip, add 6.5%
Mopar Trac-loc additive.

CAPACITIES
Engine, without filter..........10.0 quarts
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........24.0 quarts
AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant
Automatic Transmission, EX A45RFE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[1]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
4 speed 42RE..........10.0 quarts
4 speed 46RE..........10.0 quarts
4 speed 47RE..........17.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, NV1500..........4.6 pints
Manual Transmission, NV5600..........9.5 pints
Manual Transmission, NV4500..........8.0 pints
Manual Transmission, NV3500 2WD..........4.9 pints
Differential, with Dana 60 Front..........8.4 pints[2]
Differential, with Model 194 F/A Front..........3.0 pints
Differential, 2WD with Dana 60 Rear..........6.3 pints[3]
Differential, 2WD with Dana 70 Rear..........7.0 pints
Differential, 2WD with Dana 80 Rear..........6.8 pints[4]
Differential, 4WD with Dana 60 Rear..........7.2 pints[5]
Differential, 4WD with Dana 70 Rear..........7.6 pints
Differential, 4WD with Dana 80 Rear..........10.0 pints
Transfer Case,NV242, 244..........2.7 pints
Transfer Case,NV241HD W/ PTO..........9.3 pints
Transfer Case,NP231, 233..........2.5 pints

1. With ENG at operating temperature, shift through all
gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid
as needed.
2. Fill no higher then 1/4" below plug hole.
3. Fill no higher then 3/4" below plug hole.
4. Lube level in all axles must not come up to the fill plug
opening. The level must be as follows: FRONT
with 7.25" ring gear, 3/4" (17mm);
with Dana 44, 1/4" (6mm);
with Dana 60, 1/2" (12mm). REAR:
with 7.25" ring gear, 1/2" (12mm);
with 8.25" ring gear, 1/4" (6mm);
W/ 9.25" ring gear, 5/8" (15mm);
With Dana, 3/4" (17mm).
5. Fill no higher then 3/4" below plug hole.

TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....37 ft-lbs
Transfer case
Fill Plug.....30-40 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....30-40 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV5600 6-SPD
Fill Plug.....22 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....30 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV4500
Fill Plug.....25-35 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....25-35 ft-lbs


SERVICE INTERVAL
AMSOIL Product Recommendation and Drain Interval Guide (g1490)

 

[Summitric]

Summitric can I run 5w40 synthetic in my 01 24valve dodge? Or will it hurt that engine....it has 345,000km on it so I am sure it is broke in now. Although it would be a same to be leaking that pricy oil...lol!

HEY NOS.... THAT'S BARELY BROKEN IN FOR A DODGE. STICK WITH THE 15W40(GOOD OIL), BECAUSE, IF YOU'RE LEAKING WITH 15W40, JUST THINK HOW MUCH YOU'D BE LEAKING WITH 5W40 SYNTHETIC. SEE YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK -- WHEN DOO YOU LEAVE??

 

[rknight111]

And for the 2008 F350, Below is some info for you, there is nothing on the site yet but I will update shortly. I know I am getting my first done at the dealer and every second one after that. In between I will supply my oil and filter and have Summitric do at his shop if they can find the filter and fill area under the hood.


2008 FORD TRUCKS F350 PICKUP 6.4L 8-cyl Engine Code R TurboDiesel






LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil
No recommendations
0 to 50°C......10W-30
Above 20°C......15W-40
Above -20°C......5W-40
Under 50°C......0W-40, 0W-30




CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........14.2 liters





SERVICE INTERVAL
AMSOIL Product Recommendation and Drain Interval Guide (g1490)

OTHER TOP QUALITY PRODUCTS
Mothers® Car Care Appearance Products
By-Pass Oil Filters

 

[Linkz]

Thanks evryone for their input!!! WOW what a response. I only have 5000km on my truck so i guess i will have to wait a little longer switching to synthetic. Again thanks to everyone!

 

[OVERKILL 19]

Alot of new cars,trucks come with synthetic from the factory, I don't believe you need to wait to get past the break-in before swapping. Go to Amsoil.com under the asked ? section it talks about it there.

 

[BIGFOOT]

I am wondering if a non synthetic oil is better for new engines as it would be better for as so the term 'lapping' for the inner componets ???? Maybe just one of many reasons ?

 

[NosRX1]

HEY NOS.... THAT'S BARELY BROKEN IN FOR A DODGE. STICK WITH THE 15W40(GOOD OIL), BECAUSE, IF YOU'RE LEAKING WITH 15W40, JUST THINK HOW MUCH YOU'D BE LEAKING WITH 5W40 SYNTHETIC. SEE YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK -- WHEN DOO YOU LEAVE??

The first of next week, new company and everything so big change! they work is steady and so far good to deal with. And most importantly the pay is good!