Drove by the Boulder turnoff from the highway this morning and saw 4 or 5 cop cars in the semi chain-up area with one cop standing in the middle of the road directing some sledders in. Anyone know what they were looking for?
Cops stopping sledders at the boulder turnoff....
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Stg2Suby
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LOL
"do you know why I pulled you over?"
"Umm you're looking for Timbits?"
"do you know why I pulled you over?"
"Umm you're looking for Timbits?"
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I doubt it was a sobriety check. It was 9am. I was wondering more along the line if they were actually checking VIN's or registrations (which may actually be useful) or one of those, lets check to see if we can give you a ticket for anything checks.
Just relaying info from someone who has been stopped. Just because its 9 am means nothing. Have seen many sledders party all night then go sledding in the morning. Who knows, but they never ask us for anything, looked in the window asked where we were going said it is just a sobriety check and let us go.
Thedoityouselfguy
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May not be on topic but this thread has sparked a question.......is there any sense in having your sled registered in Alberta if your sledding in BC??? Provincial registration is only good for the province it is purchased for correct?.......or by some madness would we be required to have BC registration?
LUCKY 7
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There is a lot of debate on the whole registration in BC. Lots of opinions for sure
Stg2Suby
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If you've got proof or registration from another province it doesn't make sense to require BC registration as well. The registration should go with the province of ownership to prove you're the correct owner. Now if BC laws don't accept use of a vehicle registered in XX province that's another story but I don't think this is an issue.
cancritter
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have it registered and insured in albt..after that don't care..is their problem...can you imagine them applying this to private vehicles cars ect....
moyiesledhead
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It's pretty simple actually. BC residents require BC registration. Out of province require whatever is required in their home province/state/country....no different from any other motor vehicle.
thegeneral
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good to hear they are out there. As long as you've got all your chit in order, you don't have anything to worry about.
06 Dragon
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As long as they don't become Dicks like in Valemount. Truck is too high, lights are too bright, don,t have 10 tie downs attached.etc, etc,etc.
Stompin Tom
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dont you mean "as long as they allow you to be a dick".
thegeneral
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loudmouth+coke
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I don't believe that is correct. If you are from a province that does not require insurance or registration and you are riding in a province that does, then you would need to have it. However your insurance +/or registration is always based on where you live, not where you are riding.
For BC there are 2 sources
Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations - Off-Road Vehicle
· Vehicle registration – all current and future ORV owners will require one-time mandatory vehicle registration (sale/resale). Private lands will be excluded.
· Licence plate/decal – all ORV riders will require a licence plate or decal that will be associated with vehicle registration.
· Annual vehicle licence – only applies to ORV riders who choose to access designated public road/highway crossings or portions of the right of way. ORV riders that stay on Crown land only need registration.
· Insurance – On public roads and highways, basic insurance continues to be a requirement for all motorists; ORV riders who choose to cross at designated public road crossings will require insurance. On Forest Service Roads, liability insurance continues to be a requirement. On Crown land, liability insurance is voluntary but recommended.
ICBC
· Snowmobile - must have - ICBC | Snowmobiles
· ATV - may need
- off-road vehicles must have licence plates and insurance when used in certain locations, such as around highways ICBC | Off-road vehicles
- It is the B.C. Forestry Act that stipulates that all machines using the forestry roads must have liability insurance coverage and a valid drivers license held by the operator. This is why there are checkpoints in the bush at times to look for compliance. This ruling has been in force for a long time but has not had the effort put into enforcement due to budgetary restraints. There is a fine associated with the violation and several people have been fined $578.00 (approx) for non-compliance. This would pay for the insurance for over three years at the current rates.
· Dirt bike - cannot license
For Alberta
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Registration: Off-highway vehicles must be registered before they are allowed on Alberta’s roads. This applies only to public land and highways. (Traffic Safety Act, Section 119.) No registration required if on private property.
Insurance: All off-highway vehicles must be insured if you plan to operate them on public land or highways where permitted.
(Traffic Safety Act, Section 119.) No insurance required if on private property.
white6
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General has a point. the heavy handed police presence / services in valemount certainly discourages sledders from going in some ways. It actually came up this wkd, and a group member said 'its like they ticket you for being there' LOL which some days it doesn't feel that far off. Granted they are enforcing a lot of important rules and safety is important, but sometimes it just seems to be going a little far and more than a little biased to alberta plates. Personally have only had one or two encounters with the cops there, with one being not so great. But know more immediate family and friends who have had negative encounters.
Really, we complain when they're not around but then we complain when they are around and doing their job and the people a service. Guess we are just more specific on what we would like to see from them. The drinking after sledding then driving back to the hotel is certainly bothersome to me, but having only superclamps on the sleds in the trailers and not a 3rd tie point, not so much. Just for example. But the laws were made to protect us so best abide by them the best that you can and you'll have no worries when mr. officer walks up to the door
Really, we complain when they're not around but then we complain when they are around and doing their job and the people a service. Guess we are just more specific on what we would like to see from them. The drinking after sledding then driving back to the hotel is certainly bothersome to me, but having only superclamps on the sleds in the trailers and not a 3rd tie point, not so much. Just for example. But the laws were made to protect us so best abide by them the best that you can and you'll have no worries when mr. officer walks up to the door
moyiesledhead
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Well.......it IS correct, but I didn't come here to argue.
The "Off road management framework' etc, etc. has not as yet been legislated, and they've been "considering" it for 5 years now. Don't hold your breath waiting for it.
Snowmobiles are exempt from the requirement for liability insurance and a drivers license on FSR's under the Forest Service Road Use Regulation, section 3(a).
Forest Service Road Use Regulation
There is presently no way to register an ATV in BC, nor can a snowmobile be registered in BC by an out of province owner without a BC address.
Exactly, lots of guys want to over think this. Register and insure it in your home province, they just want to see paperwork that it's legit and didn't just "fall into your truck" on the way to Revy.
Cops ain't dumb, they get a vibe from peeps when they stop them, if someone is sweating and trying to shove something under the seat as they roll down the window, the cops can tell. Its a catch 22, peeps say they are targetting sledders but maybe sledders are the guys they have the most issues with. so...Why wouldn't they?. Its not targetting us....its called statistics....if 5 out of 10 sledders they stop get a ticket.....you gotta know the stats tell them to pull us over.
Glad to see them out and checking like so many wanted, don't be a dick when you go through the checkstop, probably won't be a hassle and might even let you off with a warning. If you got tinted windows or HIDs pointed right at him when you pull up, well....pull up your big boy pants and get ready to pay for the sh!t you know was illegal when you installed it. Don't bitch and whine like a 5 yr old. Maybe the more guys that go through the checkstop without any issues, we will see a change in the perception of sledders.
somethingnuw
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LOL... very good point... but have you ever seen them transport anything correctly? I mean really... i have lived in rural bc and rural AB the cops (RCMP) have quads, boat and sleds... lol... never tied down correctly... one year (2007) i was dirtbiking in Lillooet and 50 cops showed up with atv's doing a course... not one quad tied correctly one trailer was a sled trailer and was tied down with rubber bungy cords like what you'd see a big truck use for tarp tie downs... lol another time i saw two rcmp sleds on the back of an atv trailer... you know the one where the front atv goes across and the back goes on regularly... two sleds on it... one sled didn't fit as the trialer wasn't wide enough so the sled stuck halfway off the deck... yup one Crappy tire rachet tie down holding down and back the sled... no red flag nothing... just a reciepe for disaster... but ya my jerry can has to be tied down. sorry for the rant!
burns my ass when one of them is on a power trip... maybe he's sledder and wants it all to himself or maybe Valemont has been a zoo in the pasted due to sledders...sometime we bring this on ourselves
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