2012 pro rmk 800 or 2012 doo etec 800???

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Your ratio is actually weight to HP so you are saying the Pro is heavier per HP...on a HP to weight the Doo also has the edge by 0.005 hp per pound. Splitting hairs at 3 decimals haha...both the hp and weight numbers are probably bs on both sleds anyway...
 

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Maxwell its time to turn you to the darkside and I got just the thing that will do it lol. PRO all the way !!!!!!! mine was 12200.00 with tax out the door what does BRP say about that. Man you can put a 3 inch track on a new pro and still come away cheeper than a etec how about them apples. And please dont tell me that a stock etec will out handle a new pro with a 3 inch.
 
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So back to the first question...2012 Poo, or 2012 Doo....

If you haven't spent time on a 2011 or newer Doo with an etec, you need to. The difference between an 08/09 and a new one are night and day.

Same goes for the Poo, you need to ride it and see if you like it.

My biggest observations on the Polaris are the narrow running boards. For a mountain sled riding in bottomless powder, having snow pack in on those narrow boards sucks. Yeah sure Burandt can do all kinds of fancy things on a Polaris, but most people I see on the hill aren't jumping around like he does. The other is the narrower track. I can't say for sure the 15" gives up that much more floatation, but everytime I get on one it doesn't get up and go like a Doo does.

I can't say the Poo gave up a lot in the HP category, I wasn't trying pull after pull, side by side either.

Alot of people jumped on the new Pro wagon last year, most say they are happy. I don't know why anyone would pull the sway bars on any new sled, its not even a factor.

I won't comment on the Cat as I haven't ridden one, and its a first year build. There is something to say about those taller spindles and I know the Doo race sleds are already going to a taller spindle.
 

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All the companies have different ways of measuring horsepower wether it is from the crank or the track. The reality of it is that the Polaris is rated a quite a bit under the other brands. But I think they are being realistic about it. I've seen both climb they are pretty equal climbing the hill but from what I have found it's the handling that's the big difference the skidoo rides nice but I like the way I can throw around a pro. Both good sleds just buy what one suits your style!
 

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So back to the first question...2012 Poo, or 2012 Doo....

If you haven't spent time on a 2011 or newer Doo with an etec, you need to. The difference between an 08/09 and a new one are night and day.

Same goes for the Poo, you need to ride it and see if you like it.

My biggest observations on the Polaris are the narrow running boards. For a mountain sled riding in bottomless powder, having snow pack in on those narrow boards sucks. Yeah sure Burandt can do all kinds of fancy things on a Polaris, but most people I see on the hill aren't jumping around like he does. The other is the narrower track. I can't say for sure the 15" gives up that much more floatation, but everytime I get on one it doesn't get up and go like a Doo does.

I can't say the Poo gave up a lot in the HP category, I wasn't trying pull after pull, side by side either.

Alot of people jumped on the new Pro wagon last year, most say they are happy. I don't know why anyone would pull the sway bars on any new sled, its not even a factor.

I won't comment on the Cat as I haven't ridden one, and its a first year build. There is something to say about those taller spindles and I know the Doo race sleds are already going to a taller spindle.

I think your answer is Pro, its Cheaper, it works, its not a new motor it's just fixed. Polaris missed the ball on the 2008-2010 motors and revamped it for 2011 and it works really well. If you study around a little you will find that this motor can and will make 160+ hp with some bolt on parts. This motor also likes to be worked, and after talking to Chrisco I believe he is right in saying give it some deep lugs to chew on. I love the handling of the machine its just plain fun and it doesn't take a lot of work to throw it around.

I believe Dynotech Research shows the motor at 150+ stock.
 

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When I first rode my 2011 etec I couldn't believe how easy it was to pull over compared to the earlier models, it pulled over so easy that i was getting stuck because it would fall right over on its side compared to my 09. i had to put wider skiis on it and set the ski stance wider, so it fit my riding style.
Skidoo is the only brand that has a 16 wide track, so yes it is going to be harder to pull over that a cat or pro, but that is not stopping me from enjoying my sled, I just learned to ride it.
Now what is making me think about switching brands to a pro is 1 is the price, the pro is was way cheaper than a etec, and 2 the pro is mod friendly, But comparing box stock sleds and from what I witnessed last year comparing mine to a pro, the etec is a way stronger sled, but the pro makes up for that with a nice chassis.
I rode and raced polaris for many years back east and really enjoyed the product, and tried doo out here.
I ve never rode a pro and would really like to, hopefully this year I get that chance, maybe one with some boost.;)
 

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When I first rode my 2011 etec I couldn't believe how easy it was to pull over compared to the earlier models, it pulled over so easy that i was getting stuck because it would fall right over on its side compared to my 09. i had to put wider skiis on it and set the ski stance wider, so it fit my riding style.Skidoo is the only brand that has a 16 wide track, so yes it is going to be harder to pull over that a cat or pro, but that is not stopping me from enjoying my sled, I just learned to ride it.Now what is making me think about switching brands to a pro is 1 is the price, the pro is was way cheaper than a etec, and 2 the pro is mod friendly, But comparing box stock sleds and from what I witnessed last year comparing mine to a pro, the etec is a way stronger sled, but the pro makes up for that with a nice chassis. I rode and raced polaris for many years back east and really enjoyed the product, and tried doo out here.I ve never rode a pro and would really like to, hopefully this year I get that chance, maybe one with some boost.;)
Not sure what you mean when you say that the E Tech is a way stronger sled? That is not the experience with the guys in our riding group. We had 3 Pros and one new 2011 Ski Doo last year, the Doo needed $4000 in repairs after the ski carbide got caught up on a rock. He didn't even hit the rock and the front end folded like a cheap tent. The Pro's needed 2 "A" arms replaced at a cost of under $400 and twenty minutes of work to change them out. The cast aluminum bulkhead on the Pro is what sets it apart from the rest!!
 
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When I first rode my 2011 etec I couldn't believe how easy it was to pull over compared to the earlier models, it pulled over so easy that i was getting stuck because it would fall right over on its side compared to my 09. i had to put wider skiis on it and set the ski stance wider, so it fit my riding style.
Skidoo is the only brand that has a 16 wide track, so yes it is going to be harder to pull over that a cat or pro, but that is not stopping me from enjoying my sled, I just learned to ride it.
Now what is making me think about switching brands to a pro is 1 is the price, the pro is was way cheaper than a etec, and 2 the pro is mod friendly, But comparing box stock sleds and from what I witnessed last year comparing mine to a pro, the etec is a way stronger sled, but the pro makes up for that with a nice chassis.
I rode and raced polaris for many years back east and really enjoyed the product, and tried doo out here.
I ve never rode a pro and would really like to, hopefully this year I get that chance, maybe one with some boost.;)

"like" Main Jet on facebook. It will let me know to invite you when we have demo events. You in fact could have tested out a boosted 2011, and 2012 pro during one of our demo rides this past season. I agree, had I not actually tried a different brand of sled I'd have let my ego and brand loyalty dictate my likes and dislikes surrounding sleds. Super thankful to have an opportunity to try out different Iron.
"Like" us in my link below I think.. if it doesn't work let me know.
 

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Not sure what you mean when you say that the E Tech is a way stronger sled? That is not the experience with the guys in our riding group. We had 3 Pros and one new 2011 Ski Doo last year, the Doo needed $4000 in repairs after the ski carbide got caught up on a rock. He didn't even hit the rock and the front end folded like a cheap tent. The Pro's needed 2 "A" arms replaced at a cost of under $400 and twenty minutes of work to change them out. The cast aluminum bulkhead on the Pro is what sets it apart from the rest!!


Physics states that when a movable object hits an unmoveable object something has to give and it usually is the object made of aluminum, plastic and chromoly. You never just hit something slightly or say I don't remember even hitting anything. Parts don't bend from non contact or glancing contact. Just sayin.......:D:beer:
 

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Nice to see that people are finally acknowledging what a buffalo the 08 and 09 XP's are to side hill, I have ordered both rear and front S-36 kits and will probably switch skiis as well, I am only 160 lbs with 15 years of mountain riding on Doos, My lightened 156"S chassis and 159"ZX chassis summit's will side hill all day but won't climb like the XP, does anyone know if the heavy rear springs will help as well? will heavier springs help keep the front end down?
 

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Nice to see that people are finally acknowledging what a buffalo the 08 and 09 XP's are to side hill, I have ordered both rear and front S-36 kits and will probably switch skiis as well, I am only 160 lbs with 15 years of mountain riding on Doos, My lightened 156"S chassis and 159"ZX chassis summit's will side hill all day but won't climb like the XP, does anyone know if the heavy rear springs will help as well? will heavier springs help keep the front end down?

finally acknowledging? the narrow stance only came out last year. The 08/09/10 Xp's sidehill just fine. Heck I even put the sway bar back in my '09.

The newer xp's with the 36" stance simply feel lighter. Less rider fatigue overall when riding in bottomless powder all day.

When you say switch ski's, what do you mean? Hopefully not swap left for right.
 

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Not sure what you mean when you say that the E Tech is a way stronger sled? That is not the experience with the guys in our riding group. We had 3 Pros and one new 2011 Ski Doo last year, the Doo needed $4000 in repairs after the ski carbide got caught up on a rock. He didn't even hit the rock and the front end folded like a cheap tent. The Pro's needed 2 "A" arms replaced at a cost of under $400 and twenty minutes of work to change them out. The cast aluminum bulkhead on the Pro is what sets it apart from the rest!!
Sorry for the confusion, what I ment was lining up on a hill, raw engine power and the chassis climbing ability not rider.
I ve hit a rock at 40mph and it actually caught the lower a arm, it only cost 1000 bucks for a s module replacement and lower a arm, no damage to the e-module.
 

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"like" Main Jet on facebook. It will let me know to invite you when we have demo events. You in fact could have tested out a boosted 2011, and 2012 pro during one of our demo rides this past season. I agree, had I not actually tried a different brand of sled I'd have let my ego and brand loyalty dictate my likes and dislikes surrounding sleds. Super thankful to have an opportunity to try out different Iron.
"Like" us in my link below I think.. if it doesn't work let me know.
The link worked
Thank you
 
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