Beware Big Fines !!!
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Hence beaver fever.........hmmmmm...........
ZRrrr
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I spoke with ESRD about the RV dumping issue as I was curious to the law. Always thought it was illegal myself but wanted to know for sure. Here is what I was told:
Public Lands Act of Alberta - Section 54 1A - States it is prohibited to release waste material on public land.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/P40.pdf
Environmental Protection and Enhancement Act (EPEA) - Section 178 - No person shall release waste on public land. There are two exceptions, one being into a container for the purpose of containing it and in accordance with the Forest and Prairie Protection Act. Was also referred to section 109 - Prohibited release where no approval or regulation.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E12.pdf
I asked about if it were treated properly and was told "what is treated properly?". I would need permission, have to obtain a permit, and it would have to meet the requirement for treatment under several other "acts".
Was mentioned that people have been fined for doing this and that as recreational users we should always be using "best practices".
Public Lands Act of Alberta - Section 54 1A - States it is prohibited to release waste material on public land.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/P40.pdf
Environmental Protection and Enhancement Act (EPEA) - Section 178 - No person shall release waste on public land. There are two exceptions, one being into a container for the purpose of containing it and in accordance with the Forest and Prairie Protection Act. Was also referred to section 109 - Prohibited release where no approval or regulation.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E12.pdf
I asked about if it were treated properly and was told "what is treated properly?". I would need permission, have to obtain a permit, and it would have to meet the requirement for treatment under several other "acts".
Was mentioned that people have been fined for doing this and that as recreational users we should always be using "best practices".
rsaruk
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What is the difference between dumping grey water or using a tub to do your dishes and dumping that on the ground?
imdoo'n
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well that was big time waster.
Mike270412
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says the man who knows.
rzrgade
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How did that alien abduction work out for Larry & James .....speaking of time .... "Wasted".
rzrgade
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Besides you would never see Rachel crap in the bush....just sayin....
imdoo'n
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Don't remember a thing
imdoo'n
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Lots of crap in the bush last weekend
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Are you sore???
DRD
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FFS just you the free sani-station they have all over the place.
Herds of elk for example don't eat the crap humans do and they don't crap 65 gallons in one spot.
Herds of elk for example don't eat the crap humans do and they don't crap 65 gallons in one spot.
Skegmeister
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Easy, easy there Pinner.
Just as note, I still fish and quad in the same areas for 35+ years now and so do my kids.
It is my observation that I speak to specifically and having the right to express my opinion does not warrant being called names. I speak from a 35+ year observation, which included oil exploitation, quadders, floods and droughts. Although my knowledge of river habitats and photo stock pics of gravel and eggs may not to be par to yours, it was not the point I was trying to make. I will assume you missed the point, so I will clarify.
Nature will recover as long it has been given a chance. By confining all ATVers on to smaller areas, being on the same trails, crossing the same rivers in the location, the area will much slower to recover. Inspite of trail management efforts, we are going to drive on dirt, grass, muskeg, mud, water, creek or river some time during our travels. Thats what makes ATVing fun. By spreading out the vehicle traffic to a larger area, there is greater likely hood that our 'footprint' will be erased....based on what I have observed. Including what Mother Nature has up her sleeve of what to do next.
Just as note, I still fish and quad in the same areas for 35+ years now and so do my kids.
It is my observation that I speak to specifically and having the right to express my opinion does not warrant being called names. I speak from a 35+ year observation, which included oil exploitation, quadders, floods and droughts. Although my knowledge of river habitats and photo stock pics of gravel and eggs may not to be par to yours, it was not the point I was trying to make. I will assume you missed the point, so I will clarify.
Nature will recover as long it has been given a chance. By confining all ATVers on to smaller areas, being on the same trails, crossing the same rivers in the location, the area will much slower to recover. Inspite of trail management efforts, we are going to drive on dirt, grass, muskeg, mud, water, creek or river some time during our travels. Thats what makes ATVing fun. By spreading out the vehicle traffic to a larger area, there is greater likely hood that our 'footprint' will be erased....based on what I have observed. Including what Mother Nature has up her sleeve of what to do next.
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Found a good video on srd website but can't seem to post it with sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvEXl6OqrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvEXl6OqrY
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Beware Big Fines?
Hmmmm.......if you know what you are doing and doing it legally you don't get fined?!?!?
How about douche bags about to get what they got coming thread.
I for one think it's an excellent idea to tag a few that have CLEARLY crossed the line to get the message out.
Have 8 off road toys and every one is insured, registered and operated wthin the allowed limits of the law on crown and private land.
Not very hard to do.
Sorry but I won't be shedding a tear for anyone tagged for crossing the line.
Hmmmm.......if you know what you are doing and doing it legally you don't get fined?!?!?
How about douche bags about to get what they got coming thread.
I for one think it's an excellent idea to tag a few that have CLEARLY crossed the line to get the message out.
Have 8 off road toys and every one is insured, registered and operated wthin the allowed limits of the law on crown and private land.
Not very hard to do.
Sorry but I won't be shedding a tear for anyone tagged for crossing the line.
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I agree.
If the consequences were high enough and enforced, instead of the "bad guys" being "educated", it would go a long way to clean up the mess. IMHO, that goes for all rule breakers.
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imdoo'n
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wth is with this "old" ohv users? I call discrimiation, and demand my senior discount!!!
rzrgade
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Hey the way he and his brother in law rack up fines.... Every bit helps... Hehehe
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