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Trump wants Canadian oil landlocked so he can continue to feed his gulf coast refineries with cheap oil. US has nothing to gain in getting Canada's most important export to tidewater.


Draw a line at Hope, Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island and the Charlottes are on their own.
And then run them pussies all the way to California.
 

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Haha. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Trump for all this crap.
The pipeline will never be built. Every politician involved has no interest in seeing the oil industry succeed. Notley has been a vocal supporter of shutting down the oil sands for years, and is now only paying lip service to standing up for Alberta because she has to for any hope of keeping her job. She also has no stomach for a fight.
Trudeau as well has been a vocal opponent of the oil sands, and the liberal party and the eastern Canadian power brokers for decades have done their best to suppress western Canadian prosperity, and would love nothing better than to see Alberta and Saskatchewan barely scratch to survive bankruptcy. All Trudeau has to do is delay this until Kinder Morgan walks away. (And they will walk away).
Horrigan, as slimy a politician as he is, is no different than any other BC premier of the last 40 years. In the eyes of B.C. politicians, the rest of the province exists to support the lower mainland and the entitled socialists that live there. Every political party in the history of B.C. has actively suppressed the rest of the province to develop and support the lower mainland. The third world road and infrastructure systems of the rest of B.C. is ample evidence of that. North eastern B.C. , the Shuswap,the okanagan valley, the invermere valley are only growing and prospering because of Alberta money. It’s offshore investment money that keeps Vancouver and the surrounding areas running, and the liberal elites and politicians could care less about the rest of B.C. The billions that the pipeline would bring to the interior of the province and the jobs and prosperity that would come with it are a threat to the power base in the lower mainland. They don’t want the rest of B.C. to succeed.
The really scary part of this is the repercussions that will be felt when Kinder Morgan walks away. It will be a signal to the world that Canada is not open for any business that seeks to develop our abundant natural resources. Oil, mining, timber and big Agri-business will at best maintain their operations in Canada but will never invest new money. The governments can hint at backstopping the pipeline financially, but no businessmen in their right mind would trust the gaggle of clowns we have running things. They’ll simply take their money and talents and invest elsewhere.
Well said.
Corperate farms can flock off.
 

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Haha. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Trump for all this crap.
The pipeline will never be built. Every politician involved has no interest in seeing the oil industry succeed. Notley has been a vocal supporter of shutting down the oil sands for years, and is now only paying lip service to standing up for Alberta because she has to for any hope of keeping her job. She also has no stomach for a fight.
Trudeau as well has been a vocal opponent of the oil sands, and the liberal party and the eastern Canadian power brokers for decades have done their best to suppress western Canadian prosperity, and would love nothing better than to see Alberta and Saskatchewan barely scratch to survive bankruptcy. All Trudeau has to do is delay this until Kinder Morgan walks away. (And they will walk away).
Horrigan, as slimy a politician as he is, is no different than any other BC premier of the last 40 years. In the eyes of B.C. politicians, the rest of the province exists to support the lower mainland and the entitled socialists that live there. Every political party in the history of B.C. has actively suppressed the rest of the province to develop and support the lower mainland. The third world road and infrastructure systems of the rest of B.C. is ample evidence of that. North eastern B.C. , the Shuswap,the okanagan valley, the invermere valley are only growing and prospering because of Alberta money. It’s offshore investment money that keeps Vancouver and the surrounding areas running, and the liberal elites and politicians could care less about the rest of B.C. The billions that the pipeline would bring to the interior of the province and the jobs and prosperity that would come with it are a threat to the power base in the lower mainland. They don’t want the rest of B.C. to succeed.
The really scary part of this is the repercussions that will be felt when Kinder Morgan walks away. It will be a signal to the world that Canada is not open for any business that seeks to develop our abundant natural resources. Oil, mining, timber and big Agri-business will at best maintain their operations in Canada but will never invest new money. The governments can hint at backstopping the pipeline financially, but no businessmen in their right mind would trust the gaggle of clowns we have running things. They’ll simply take their money and talents and invest elsewhere.
Actually the local economy in Invermere valley does ok without the Alberta imports.
Lots of Euros and Mericans visiting for tourism.
Logging is booming, mining is booming.
Albertans just make real estate unaffordable for locals and fill up the local hospital on the weekends.....
 

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Actually the local economy in Invermere valley does ok without the Alberta imports.
Lots of Euros and Mericans visiting for tourism.
Logging is booming, mining is booming.
Albertans just make real estate unaffordable for locals and fill up the local hospital on the weekends.....
You're a dickturd
 

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Can Notley really do that tho without just cause?. Telling a company to shut down and loose money over a provincial political dispute just to prove a point?? That shutdown would start a financial ripple effect throughout AB. It would be easier and cheaper for the company to scrap the expansion, all together.


I dont see this happening, what company would agree to this without compensation of their financial losses. IMO that may hurt AB more than help.
This is what I was wondering

Larry, Curly and Moe are making a joke of the West.
 

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Haha. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Trump for all this crap.
The pipeline will never be built. Every politician involved has no interest in seeing the oil industry succeed. Notley has been a vocal supporter of shutting down the oil sands for years, and is now only paying lip service to standing up for Alberta because she has to for any hope of keeping her job. She also has no stomach for a fight.
Trudeau as well has been a vocal opponent of the oil sands, and the liberal party and the eastern Canadian power brokers for decades have done their best to suppress western Canadian prosperity, and would love nothing better than to see Alberta and Saskatchewan barely scratch to survive bankruptcy. All Trudeau has to do is delay this until Kinder Morgan walks away. (And they will walk away).
Horrigan, as slimy a politician as he is, is no different than any other BC premier of the last 40 years. In the eyes of B.C. politicians, the rest of the province exists to support the lower mainland and the entitled socialists that live there. Every political party in the history of B.C. has actively suppressed the rest of the province to develop and support the lower mainland. The third world road and infrastructure systems of the rest of B.C. is ample evidence of that. North eastern B.C. , the Shuswap,the okanagan valley, the invermere valley are only growing and prospering because of Alberta money. It’s offshore investment money that keeps Vancouver and the surrounding areas running, and the liberal elites and politicians could care less about the rest of B.C. The billions that the pipeline would bring to the interior of the province and the jobs and prosperity that would come with it are a threat to the power base in the lower mainland. They don’t want the rest of B.C. to succeed.
The really scary part of this is the repercussions that will be felt when Kinder Morgan walks away. It will be a signal to the world that Canada is not open for any business that seeks to develop our abundant natural resources. Oil, mining, timber and big Agri-business will at best maintain their operations in Canada but will never invest new money. The governments can hint at backstopping the pipeline financially, but no businessmen in their right mind would trust the gaggle of clowns we have running things. They’ll simply take their money and talents and invest elsewhere.
Not saying Trump is causing this, just saying he has nothing to gain by fixing it.

Basically everything else you say is spot on. Politicians biting the hand that feeds them in order to maintain support from the ones that voted them in and consume the government handouts/subsidies/funding.
 

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Not saying Trump is causing this, just saying he has nothing to gain by fixing it.

Basically everything else you say is spot on. Politicians biting the hand that feeds them in order to maintain support from the ones that voted them in and consume the government handouts/subsidies/funding.

I think tomorrow I'm going to walk into my bosses office and let him know I just voted to increase my wage and benefit packages.
 

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Trump wants Canadian oil landlocked so he can continue to feed his gulf coast refineries with cheap oil. US has nothing to gain in getting Canada's most important export to tidewater.


Draw a line at Hope, Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island and the Charlottes are on their own.

Gee thanks for throwing us in with the city folk,ever been anywhere on the island besides Victoria?most of us islanders are just the same as the people in any other small town or city anywhere in BC.
 

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Gee thanks for throwing us in with the city folk,ever been anywhere on the island besides Victoria?most of us islanders are just the same as the people in any other small town or city anywhere in BC.

Parksville and qualicum?
 

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Parksville and qualicum?

I live in Coombs just outside of both those places and have yet to talk to anyone in my circle of friends and work that are against it,yes we worry about a spill but still for it,maybe some of the retirees are against it but they all moved here from either the city or Alberta,as far as the hippies there is probably more of them in the Nelson areo lakes area then here,so don't be blaming us,
 

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I live in Coombs just outside of both those places and have yet to talk to anyone in my circle of friends and work that are against it,yes we worry about a spill but still for it,maybe some of the retirees are against it but they all moved here from either the city or Alberta,as far as the hippies there is probably more of them in the Nelson areo lakes area then here,so don't be blaming us,
Every one worries about.
People that run pipelines really do care about it.
 

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[FONT=&quot]Alberta NDP - "We need to build the pipeline"

BC NDP - "No. We don't want your dirty oil."

Alberta NDP: "OK. Then we'll turn off the taps."

BC NDP: "OK. Then we'll sue cause we need your dirty oil."
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