Yanking around a 40' toy hauler, with gas engine

[the_real_wild1]

There will be no handling issues between a diesel and gas except for the ride. Diesel will usually ride nicer in a one ton. My dodge had the same suspension as the diesel. Rode like crap because of it. The trailer has brakes for a reason. If you are depending on your truck brakes to stop a big trailer then you need to reevaluate being on the road imo. Hauling a bigger toyhauler with a gas truck will suck after towing the same trailer with a new diesel. If the diesel was early 90's then a new gas job will keep up.

 

[ducati]

Brakes and chassis are the same between a Diesel and Gas unit and only change once you step up to a DRW. For stopping the big difference between Gas and Diesel is the exhaust brake which is really good on the newer units. Personally i pull a 42ft triple axle toy hauler and some big loads of hay and wouldn't trade my dually for a SRW or Cummins for a Hemi. That's just my opinion.

 

[Bnorth]

Bahaha some of you retards blow me away. How do you walk and breathe at the same time?

 

[Flatlander_01]

Bahaha some of you retards blow me away. How do you walk and breathe at the same time?

Got told at work the other day I am not to use the word "retard" I have to use "Limited" instead, still works though "That Guy is fawking limited".

 

[teeroy]

Got told at work the other day I am not to use the word "retard" I have to use "Limited" instead, still works though "That Guy is fawking limited".

a buddy that owns a fairly large company told me that in their last round of training they were told you cannot call someone an idiot or a retard, but it's okay for you to ask them if they have such afflictions.

so instead of "Hey! you fawking retard!" now they have to say "hey! are you fawking retarded?"

 

[skegpro]

Why are people concerned about stopping with a gas 1ton over a diesel 1ton? Wouldn't all 1tons have the same brakes? If anything a gas might stop a bit better it's a lighter motor. As for pulling it will pull it as long as the truck is rated for the trailer weight.


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Exhaust breaking on the new diesels is awesome, don't even touch the breaks driving to Revelstoke pulling the 26ft enclosed.

 

[neilsleder]

Yah never thought about the the exhaust brake, the are very nice. That's one thing I wish my old cummins had!


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[ferniesnow]

Well young fellow, with my 36' four season holiday trailer and one pull out, I make it with a 6.2l gas job. It isn't easy and sometimes, pulling some of the hills, I'm down into 3rd or 2nd gear. The Coq is a slow drive up! Not bad coming down as the click shifter works great for down shifting using the transmission for braking most of the time.

I have seen 42l/100km on the cheater meter and on our trip to South Dakota the average was 30l/100km.

 

[Caper11]

42l/100km !

That's a lot of extra stress to the drivetrain and the driver.


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[freeflorider]

Well young fellow, with my 36' four season holiday trailer and one pull out, I make it with a 6.2l gas job. It isn't easy and sometimes, pulling some of the hills, I'm down into 3rd or 2nd gear. The Coq is a slow drive up! Not bad coming down as the click shifter works great for down shifting using the transmission for braking most of the time.

I have seen 42l/100km on the cheater meter and on our trip to South Dakota the average was 30l/100km.

Not to shabby for a gas pot, I pulled my 37' triple slide behind my 11 f350 srw down the coast line to California and was 24.7 per 100. I am happy with that and pulled it like a dream, hills were no problem.
this being said when you compare costs of ownership ie: oil changes, Repairs, tires due to torque load etc. besides the lack of power to pull the hills I'm not sure, for a 5liter per Hun diffrance I guess it comes down to your $$$ situation and how fast you want to pull the hills.
i have a bunch of one tons gas and diesel, still have a hard time balancing what is best, gas is cheaper to run but dam that diesel power is nice.

 

[the_real_wild1]

As a daily driver my diesel is cheaper to run then the 6.4 hemi I had. Towing is even more so. I also drive 40km each way to work mostly at highway speeds so you have to factor that in. If I only drove 5-10 km then it would be tough on the engine

 

[ferniesnow]

42l/100km !

That's a lot of extra stress to the drivetrain and the driver.


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Yes it was. Different driving conditions make huge differences with a gas motor. Not so much with a diesel. Head winds and long steep pulls in the mountains are not the best. I can go to Castlegar a lot easier and cheaper through Crawford Bay than I can up and over the Creston-Salmo pass, etc. Oh ya', I don't burn any gas for a few clicks while on the ferry!

 

[pistoncontracting]

I have seen 42l/100km on the cheater meter and on our trip to South Dakota the average was 30l/100km.

Wow, that's not to bad. Our '15 f350 dually, with 4:33 gears and 35's averages around 20l/100 just driving down the highway, averaging 110 to 120 km/hr.
Pulling a 40' Raptor at the same speeds, we average around 36l/100kms. I know a gas engine wouldn't be able to maintain that speed- but I'm sure I have a problem with that.

I likeely would though if I was forced into doing it

My '11 f350 had 3:32 gears, and 37" tires. I never pulled the toyhauler with it, but did take a FWA 4255 JDw/loader on a gooseneck up to Edmonton. I averaged 52L/100 on that trip- but had no issue with the cruise on at 120km/hr...


First world problems....

 

[the_real_wild1]

Wow, that's not to bad. Our '15 f350 dually, with 4:33 gears and 35's averages around 20l/100 just driving down the highway, averaging 110 to 120 km/hr.
Pulling a 40' Raptor at the same speeds, we average around 36l/100kms. I know a gas engine wouldn't be able to maintain that speed- but I'm sure I have a problem with that.

I likeely would though if I was forced into doing it

My '11 f350 had 3:32 gears, and 37" tires. I never pulled the toyhauler with it, but did take a FWA 4255 JDw/loader on a gooseneck up to Edmonton. I averaged 52L/100 on that trip- but had no issue with the cruise on at 120km/hr...


First world problems....

I think if you are getting that kind of mileage you need a new truck. Chev or Dodge perhaps?? Pulling my 5th wheel I am getting 24l/100km on the flats. It goes up on a hill but that mileage your getting something sounds wrong.

 

[ferniesnow]

Wow, that's not to bad. Our '15 f350 dually, with 4:33 gears and 35's averages around 20l/100 just driving down the highway, averaging 110 to 120 km/hr.
Pulling a 40' Raptor at the same speeds, we average around 36l/100kms. I know a gas engine wouldn't be able to maintain that speed- but I'm sure I have a problem with that.

I likeely would though if I was forced into doing it

My '11 f350 had 3:32 gears, and 37" tires. I never pulled the toyhauler with it, but did take a FWA 4255 JDw/loader on a gooseneck up to Edmonton. I averaged 52L/100 on that trip- but had no issue with the cruise on at 120km/hr...


First world problems....

With my sled(s), I'm around the 18-19l/100 km. Empty in the summer going down hill or a good tail wind going to Lethbridge, I can see numbers below 16l/100 km and some days it has been as low as 14l/100km. But that is empty!

I have the 373 gearing. Had no choice as this truck was the only one available and had to have it shipped from Prince George.

 

[Culvert]

Ferniesnow.... what kind of miles you have on your truck now? I have a 16 F350 6.2L 3.73 gears. with 23K on her & my average since new is 21L/100. Best I seen was 18 when diving through BC last summer. would like to see better numbers, but bought for reliability & cheaper maintenance costs then what my diesel was.

 

[Ronaha]

I pull with a 8.1 liter and love it....but I wouldn't want a 40' or 42' for where we go....one time after it rained all weekend it took 4 trucks tied together to pull a 42 footer out.

 

[rzrgade]

Yes I have no issues with my hemi .. But in short , if I had a larger / heavier trailer or pulled the mountains more often , I would go diesel...
Now I burn a bit more fuel & am usually a half beer behind after set up ...,
Hahaha


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[neilsleder]

Yes I have no issues with my hemi .. But in short , if I had a larger / heavier trailer or pulled the mountains more often , I would go diesel...
Now I burn a bit more fuel & am usually a half beer behind after set up ...,
Hahaha


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You drink to slow!


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[rzrgade]

Just Kracken .....


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