Best MPG in a truck / Ecoboost sucks.

pfi572 · Feb 5, 2017

Costco today

I have both gas and Diesel .
The 1/2 ton eco boost is cheaper for just running around .
The Duramax is a great truck and keeping it as it's a 2012 and prices have jumped hugely from when I purchased it.
High 70's to mid $90000.00 is crazy for a new diesel verse mid $50's for a fully loaded Eco boost.
Most could rent a diesel for when they needed it and be money ahead.

Doolvr · Feb 5, 2017

you can have three turbos on a gassser you wont keep up to a diesel pulling , plain and simple,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

timmus · Feb 5, 2017

timmus said:
Haven't seen diesel cheaper in years gas 95.9 diesel 103.9 today

I ment that diesel is cheaper than.gas in BC

catalac · Feb 5, 2017

Eco diesel, best milage by a lot, $4K more for truck will pay for its self in 100,000km and be worth $2-3k more than a gasser at that point used, winner. Only knock I see is 240hp not a fast truck if you like to regularly mat your Eco boost they are fast. Not a coincidence ford coming with a diesel half ton.

LBZ · Feb 5, 2017

Payload drops when you throw a diesel in a half ton though when compared to a 1/2 ton gas. If anyone cares about that.......

If it wasn't for all the emissions crap on the new diesels I'd jump all over them. Yes you can delete them but then you delete your warranty.
If 90% of your time you don't tow or haul heavy a halfer gas is fine. Or if what you tow doesn't require a diesel or 3/4 ton.

Personally I wish GM would scrap the aging 6 liter in the 3/4 ton and adopt the 6.2 instead. Would be the best all around for me.

c_nelson99 · Feb 5, 2017

Throw a set of injectors in a cummins, cost is almost equal to an entire engine in a gasser. Ask me how I know..

kovs · Feb 5, 2017

c_nelson99 said:
Throw a set of injectors in a cummins, cost is almost equal to an entire engine in a gasser. Ask me how I know..

I bet the Eco boost gives injectors a run for $$. 11's I think are the bad year

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Cdnfireman · Feb 5, 2017

catalac said:
Eco diesel, best milage by a lot, $4K more for truck will pay for its self in 100,000km and be worth $2-3k more than a gasser at that point used, winner. Only knock I see is 240hp not a fast truck if you like to regularly mat your Eco boost they are fast. Not a coincidence ford coming with a diesel half ton.

No way you're paying off a $4K price differential in 100,000 km. The Eco diesel is better on fuel, but not that much better. And good luck getting 3k back on a 4K option, particularly in a dodge. Nothing loses value faster than a dodge half ton. People get stuck with dodges because only dodge dealers offer anything for them on trade. Ford and GM don't want them on the lot.
The Eco diesel isn't selling well, neither is the Nissan/cummins abortion, and come time, I doubt the Ford 1/2 ton diesel will sell well either. Trying to get good fuel economy from a truck is largely a wasted effort. Too heavy and too much wind resistance. The physics are against them. Mid 20's is about the best you're gonna do consistently. Most of us that run diesels for towing etc are willing to put up with the downsides of the diesels because of their performance, something a lot of half to owners won't put up with for a couple of mpg more. Eco diesel sales prove this.

tripster · Feb 5, 2017

The ecodiesels have a serious issue happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XzdYl5iCYQ
My neighbor had his fail on his 15 with just over 100,000k on his so still on warranty.

LBZ · Feb 5, 2017

Nissan failed because of their price, $hitty payload and gvw numbers, and really not that good of a mpg number to justify buying an overpriced truck that looks like some of it was built in the ford factory.

Had they gone a different route spending a little more on a different power plant that yields better numbers and was in a truck not quite so ugly I feel it would be the one to buy. It's resale value would make up for some of its other short comings.

Braddock54 · Feb 6, 2017

Wow - I would be pretty happy to get 12-13 L per 100, empty on the highway. I am around 15 usually.

When the travel trailer is hooked up (a fairly light one, at 6000 lbs) - its easy - 25 L per 100. Going through any sort of elavation is closer to 30.

I have the Leer old man-opy, and stock sized Duratracs.

the_real_wild1 · Feb 6, 2017

I'll have to pop the hood on my rental truck. It is a f150 with what must be a v6. I'm pretty sure it isn't an ecoboost. I hope it isn't anyways.

deaner · Feb 6, 2017

I bought a 16 ecoboost crew cab long box in the fall. Have 4000km on it now and have averaged 12.8L/100km. Im pretty happy with that considering winter fuel, and that is a mix of all types of driving. Seems to get around 11 on the highway doing 100.

Bnorth · Feb 6, 2017

Braddock54 said:
Wow - I would be pretty happy to get 12-13 L per 100, empty on the highway. I am around 15 usually.

When the travel trailer is hooked up (a fairly light one, at 6000 lbs) - its easy - 25 L per 100. Going through any sort of elavation is closer to 30.

I have the Leer old man-opy, and stock sized Duratracs.

Are those 10 ply (E rated) duratracs? I guarantee that's what's killing your mileage. I put 10 ply BFG K02's on my 14 157" Ecoboost this summer to replace the stockers and expected to see the same mileage I do with with my 10 ply Hakk 2 winters but it was much worse.

I used to average 14L/100km summer and about 16L/100km winter mixed driving with sled deck on. It fairly consistently does 12.5L/100km between Salmon Arm and Calgary. I drive lots of highway but also a ton of big hills in town. With new summers I was at 16L/100km and no deck or hauling. 2000 km until powertrain warranty is done. I have the max tow and it takes a long time to get trans up to temp and I have noticed when the trans is cold mileage suffers like on my work commute every day. Going to be tuning with 5star and an SCT. I had hoped for better mileage out this truck and it did good when new (12.5L/100km) but as soon as I levelled it and put heavier tires on it went downhill quickly. Still a lot better than my last Cummins though.

Bisch · Feb 6, 2017

MPG is always so subjective... tires, temperature, driving style, acceleration, geography are all factors.

I had a 14 F150 ecoboost and it averaged 15.5 L/ 100km for commute to work and home in Calgary. Mix of stop and go and freeway driving. Highway driving would do 12.8L/100km at 120 and 11.2 at 110.

Have a 2016 F150 now and it does better. 13.5L/100 km commute, 12.0 at 120 and 10.6 at 110.

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jaredszakacs · Feb 6, 2017

ecoboost 11.5/100 w/120hp tune and intake get 1000-1100 km on a tank everytime

Beels · Feb 6, 2017

People should put the pencil to paper to figure out their mileage instead of using the lie-o-meter. I don't really care what truck it's in, it isn't accurate.

sc800 · Feb 6, 2017

Beels said:
People should put the pencil to paper to figure out their mileage instead of using the lie-o-meter. I don't really care what truck it's in, it isn't accurate.

I have done this at least 6 times on my 2012 F250 diesel and it is always bang on! This is from mine, fully deleted and winter fuel. It will be better in the summer and also running 10 ply duratracs with 55 lbs of air.

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fnDan · Feb 6, 2017

Beels said:
People should put the pencil to paper to figure out their mileage instead of using the lie-o-meter. I don't really care what truck it's in, it isn't accurate.

The lie o meter was pretty close to calculations.
I saved receipts and wrote mileage on them.

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fnDan · Feb 6, 2017

jaredszakacs said:
ecoboost 11.5/100 w/120hp tune and intake get 1000-1100 km on a tank everytime

I'd be interested in getting some details.

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