Question about Log Truck Drivers.

[Bnorth]

I know well how it works but at $100 for stumpage no one makes money, well maybe the trucks.

$20-$23 to log it and $15-$20 to haul it plus $5 allocation of overhead no silviculture costs on BCTS is a $140-$148 log. If it's a nice log there's still margin in that, even a dimensional mill had margin in that until July.

 

[freeflorider]

I know well how it works but at $100 for stumpage no one makes money, well maybe the trucks.

Milk just came out my nose lol.

 

[freeflorider]

$20-$23 to log it and $15-$20 to haul it plus $5 allocation of overhead no silviculture costs on BCTS is a $140-$148 log. If it's a nice log there's still margin in that, even a dimensional mill had margin in that until July.

Our ground is hardly flat. This sale is burnt, must const 1.7 km of road, log it and burn it. 40% Yarder or 55%-70%slopes and figure it out, must pull 70% of road back when done. So what I’m saying is by the time you do all this what’s left over when prices on burn fir/cedar and hemlock run an average of say $90. We need to pay the truckers something...
i bet you at $95 bucks before you throw a bonus bid back at them.
nothing left here.
just saying this is why loggers are going the way of the doe doe bird.
Oh yah the sale may net 6000cubic meters. No volume there.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Our ground is hardly flat. This sale is burnt, must const 1.7 km of road, log it and burn it. 40% Yarder or 55%-70%slopes and figure it out, must pull 70% of road back when done. So what I’m saying is by the time you do all this what’s left over when prices on burn fir/cedar and hemlock run an average of say $90. We need to pay the truckers something...
i bet you at $95 bucks before you throw a bonus bid back at them.
nothing left here.
just saying this is why loggers are going the way of the doe doe bird.
Oh yah the sale may net 6000cubic meters. No volume there.

We are in a 9000m3 block. At $24/me moving on average 700m3 per day.

Take out wages and fuel for 2 bunches, 2 skidders, processor at $4m3, and the piling it doesn't leave much wiggle room.

This is why pulp markets have become such a crucial part of the industry. Every stick must go to town

 

[Bnorth]

Our ground is hardly flat. This sale is burnt, must const 1.7 km of road, log it and burn it. 40% Yarder or 55%-70%slopes and figure it out, must pull 70% of road back when done. So what I’m saying is by the time you do all this what’s left over when prices on burn fir/cedar and hemlock run an average of say $90. We need to pay the truckers something...
i bet you at $95 bucks before you throw a bonus bid back at them.
nothing left here.
just saying this is why loggers are going the way of the doe doe bird.
Oh yah the sale may net 6000cubic meters. No volume there.

Definitely a different situation than my example of $100 stumpage. There are some mills struggling to stay open in your area that are just taking wood at a loss to avoid shutdowns beyond what is already scheduled. Writing is on the wall for Interfor GF and possibly Vaagen IMO.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Definitely a different situation than my example of $100 stumpage. There are some mills struggling to stay open in your area that are just taking wood at a loss to avoid shutdowns beyond what is already scheduled. Writing is on the wall for Interfor GF and possibly Vaagen IMO.

And a few others

 

[Bnorth]

And a few others

I'll be surprised if Tolko Quesnel re-opens.

 

[Cyle]

We're definitely doing our part in Edmonton with using lumber, cannot believe how much new construction is still going. And wood prices are ridiculous. Someone is still making a lot of money on it.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I'll be surprised if Tolko Quesnel re-opens.

West Fraser in quesnel and Fraser lake has dropped their 3rd shift and canfor Houston has gone to a 4 day workweek

 

[Bnorth]

West Fraser in quesnel and Fraser lake has dropped their 3rd shift and canfor Houston has gone to a 4 day workweek

Yeah I figure West Fraser will divert the logs that frees up in Quesnel to their other Cariboo facilities, don't see it helping Tolko much.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Yeah I figure West Fraser will divert the logs that frees up in Quesnel to their other Cariboo facilities, don't see it helping Tolko much.

Only 1 contractor hauled today. Needs colder weather

 

[TROLLCAT]

I have driven down hiway 16 and seen 2 B-trains of lumber 1 heading east and 1 heading west at the same time

is this to keep the truckers busy

 

[Bnorth]

I have driven down hiway 16 and seen 2 B-trains of lumber 1 heading east and 1 heading west at the same time

is this to keep the truckers busy

Westbound is either high quality J grade or low quality economy going to Prince Rupert port to Japan or China respectively and east bound is mid grade staying in Canada or taking the long way to Chicago.

 

[freeflorider]

Westbound is either high quality J grade or low quality economy going to Prince Rupert port to Japan or China respectively and east bound is mid grade staying in Canada or taking the long way to Chicago.

Or a new Canadian that can’t read the road signs and is driving in circles....sorry just could bite my tong hard enough.

 

[skegpro]

Who wants to give it a try?

 

[Bnorth]

Who wants to give it a try?

Lol JF is Stompin Toms favourite!

 

[freeflorider]

Lol JF is Stompin Toms favourite!

Lol don’t get him started...

 

[Mike270412]

Where do I apply?

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Nice rigging though

 

[skegpro]

Nice rigging though

Must be alot of money in logging.