i rode last friday and went back sunday for half day... the guy with who i rode with didn't have much experience so we didn't make it to waterfall. the last creek crossing was wide, deep with really square edge,,,i went all way across to find a easy spot... but couldn't find any. there was a few spot i was tempt to try but i knew my buddy will not make it...and if anything go wrong would of been a long day... so if you're a bunch of experienced rider i"m sure there way to punch a trail... and if it snow it might be alright...need about 1-2 feet to make it ok, if there no new snow everything before the creek been track up like crazy...and if not touched i would not play there ,,,still a lot of rock and stump... hopefully it snow enough this week. if you can make it to waterfall i bet it will be deep!!! i was playing on 2-3 feet of fluffy snow all week end