Broken Transmission on Razor 1000

[rknight111]

So 2 weekends ago I was going down the trail in the bush, the trail got deeper, about 4' below grade, then my unit started riding both side walls of the trail where I was up about 3' from the bottom. All was fine I was moving along about 10 km/hr then the trail suddenly got narrower where my front tires bound in the clay and I basically started wedging my self in, then heard some stress to the driveline. Put it in reverse and heard some grinding and some bad noises. So waited for a tow backwards as I could not go forwards at all. So got winched out till the end of the pit (dry by the way) and put it back in drive, heard some driveline noises, and managed to drive back to the place I was riding from. So this Saturday Ron H and I thought we were changing a driveshaft carrier bearing, we took out the rear propeller shaft to find it very bent. Took the unit for a quick ride and noticed some noises from the transmission. So Sunday I decided to pull the transmission to have a peek. Took it apart to find the main gears were all good, but were finding a lot of metal filings in the transmission. Pulled out the shaft that supplies power to the front pinion and there were chunks missing of gears, even the transmission case was damaged in this area and is unrepairable. I ordered new propeller shafts from super atv already but am needing a new transmission. My as well go with the Highlifter transmission, Part number 1333365. Have to call the dealer in the morning to find out the costs. For the US its 2013.00 for the transmission, And 573.00 for the driveshafts.

 

[sumx54]

Good grief man! Sorry for you loss Ron. Hope everything goes back together good for you.

 

[rzrgade]

Welcome to big lifts / tires and power....

 

[arff]

Wow that is crazy.


The way I drive I should be on the 6 th transmission.

 

[tex78]

Po transmission laris




Ask danger ranger Larry

 

[imdoo'n]

Po transmission laris




Ask danger ranger Larry

don't be talkin to loud tex you have the same problemo.,

 

[Summitric]

Seems like a lot of these transmissions are grenading on lifted units.... $$$$$

 

[imdoo'n]

So 2 weekends ago I was going down the trail in the bush, the trail got deeper, about 4' below grade, then my unit started riding both side walls of the trail where I was up about 3' from the bottom. All was fine I was moving along about 10 km/hr then the trail suddenly got narrower where my front tires bound in the clay and I basically started wedging my self in, then heard some stress to the driveline. Put it in reverse and heard some grinding and some bad noises. So waited for a tow backwards as I could not go forwards at all. So got winched out till the end of the pit (dry by the way) and put it back in drive, heard some driveline noises, and managed to drive back to the place I was riding from. So this Saturday Ron H and I thought we were changing a driveshaft carrier bearing, we took out the rear propeller shaft to find it very bent. Took the unit for a quick ride and noticed some noises from the transmission. So Sunday I decided to pull the transmission to have a peek. Took it apart to find the main gears were all good, but were finding a lot of metal filings in the transmission. Pulled out the shaft that supplies power to the front pinion and there were chunks missing of gears, even the transmission case was damaged in this area and is unrepairable. I ordered new propeller shafts from super atv already but am needing a new transmission. My as well go with the Highlifter transmission, Part number 1333365. Have to call the dealer in the morning to find out the costs. For the US its 2013.00 for the transmission, And 573.00 for the driveshafts.

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ron see that big bearing on the top of the transmission, change It out to an aftermarket one. that bearing will fail and will take out the trans iickity split. best to change out al the bearings if you can. that goes for your stock transmission or the hightlifter one. they all use the same cheap polaris bearings.
also warm that motor up before riding, as that top bearing does not ride in oil. it is a splash bath lubed and gets plenty hot.

just my opinion, after a pile of research

 

[rknight111]

I see that but after dismantling this transmission I would not look forward to doing it again. I am ordering the highlifter one this morning once the dealer opens. 1/2 the case and gears are still good so, so I'll put those up on Kijiji or eBay.

Thanks for the advise.

 

[imdoo'n]

I see that but after dismantling this transmission I would not look forward to doing it again. I am ordering the highlifter one this morning once the dealer opens. 1/2 the case and gears are still good so, so I'll put those up on Kijiji or eBay.

Thanks for the advise.

change the bearing before installng the highifter trans, it is a time bomb, u ay get 400km or 4000, but it will go. some guys are putting in a full 2 liters of oil in the trans to keep it alive. a way better bearing costs $25

 

[rknight111]

What shop would do that in Edmonton? I know I can get them at BC bearing

 

[imdoo'n]

you can do it yourself or your favorite aftermarket sled/bike shop. with the highlifter trans I think you will have to change the secondary clutch also. I usually deal with Bamm UTV in red deer.

 

[tex78]

don't be talkin to loud tex you have the same problemo.,

Ya, but I figure that if it hasn't had a issue in 10000 km, then it's good


Thought the 900 ranger, rzr and up used a different trans than the 800 did??

 

[imdoo'n]

it does but you still have the reverse chain. lol. 10,000 km that's a lot of kms. should be a few worn out parts

 

[Cat401]

Seems like a lot of these transmissions are grenading on lifted units.... $$$$$

Why on lifted units?

 

[RhinoWhino]

Usually lifted equals larger tires which puts extra strain on diff , cvs , tranny .

 

[sirkdev]

Why on lifted units?

leverage, driveline stress from increased rotating mass from larger grippier tires, increased cv angles etc

 

[rzrgade]

We need to all remember that with a lift , arched arms , huge tires , better axles etc etc it allows us the ability to get into way more harsh situations than the stock unit was ever designed for . Regardless of brand , the power and mods allow us to create stress that a stockish unit will never allow you obtain.....so spend more / and fix or tame down the machines capabilities are the options....

 

[rknight111]

The highlifter transmission was $3020.00 Cdn, Ouch. Ordered one will be here september 4.

 

[Summitric]

Damn, that sucks