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Are you willing to pay 25$ for a burger at the drive through ?

You do anyway.

All the increase in minimum wage does is stimulate tax revenues. You have to pay lower employees more yes, but in return the lower employees have more money to spend and generate more taxes through income tax and get and in Alberta through carbon taxes
 

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You do anyway.

All the increase in minimum wage does is stimulate tax revenues. You have to pay lower employees more yes, but in return the lower employees have more money to spend and generate more taxes through income tax and get and in Alberta through carbon taxes

Ya. You're wrong.
 

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You do anyway.

All the increase in minimum wage does is stimulate tax revenues. You have to pay lower employees more yes, but in return the lower employees have more money to spend and generate more taxes through income tax and get and in Alberta through carbon taxes

Tell me how any of that helps the business owner whose product cost is the same and income from the sale is the same , but his cost of wages and benefits goes up ? And what do you tell the employees who were getting the $15 or close to that ? And the majority , by a huge margin of paid in income tax is from the higher earning sector , increasing the minimum wage will do very little , if anything to increase the total income tax paid . As was said earlier, want a higher wage , work harder, start your own business, work more hours, cause yourself to be worth more to the business you choose to work at. The fact that the minimum wage is raised nationally in all areas , is just further proof that this program is very poorly thought out .
 

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Tell me how any of that helps the business owner whose product cost is the same and income from the sale is the same , but his cost of wages and benefits goes up ? And what do you tell the employees who were getting the $15 or close to that ? And the majority , by a huge margin of paid in income tax is from the higher earning sector , increasing the minimum wage will do very little , if anything to increase the total income tax paid . As was said earlier, want a higher wage , work harder, start your own business, work more hours, cause yourself to be worth more to the business you choose to work at. The fact that the minimum wage is raised nationally in all areas , is just further proof that this program is very poorly thought out .

Not saying the program works other to generate more tax revenue. However if teenage Jonny makes more at McDonald's or bubbles he has more money to spend at your clothing store or take his date to a movie thus continues the circle of the dollar. Yes you will have to pay your employee more to sell the now $80 T shirt but that employee will have more money to spend at the shoe store. The only time the circle fails if 1) you have a ****ty clothing store and can't maintain business but thats not minimum wages fault, it would have failed anyway just might happen sooner or 2) Jonny and your employee stop spending the extra money and just hord it.

Kevin oleary says it best, once the dollar stops moving its dead. Once its dead it can never come back.

Unfortunately our government kills most of the dollars
 

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You do anyway.

All the increase in minimum wage does is stimulate tax revenues. You have to pay lower employees more yes, but in return the lower employees have more money to spend and generate more taxes through income tax and get and in Alberta through carbon taxes

No all it does is eliminate entry level jobs.
 

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I asked the same question and had a friend explain it to me like this...

You have 3 employees 1 at 12/hr, 1 at 16/hr and 1 at 18/hr

Min wage get's bumped up to 15/hr
Employee 1 goes woo hooo!!! I just got a 3 dollar raise for doing nothing
Employee 2 is pissed, because now #1 is making almost the same after only 6 months. So employee 2 gets moved up to 18/hr
Employee 3 has the same complaints as #2, so is bumped up to 20/hr
And now everyone is happy, including you....... until you realize that your profit margin just got tanked, because of the amount of wages you now have to put out!!
Or you just give 2&3 a little raise, they get pissed off and quit. And close to doors because you can't afford to hire anyone
Can you raise your prices to offset your wages, without losing customers???

A LOT of Mom and Pop company's in Alberta had to fold, because of what the NDP did here.
Less is more....

You do anyway.

All the increase in minimum wage does is stimulate tax revenues. You have to pay lower employees more yes, but in return the lower employees have more money to spend and generate more taxes through income tax and get and in Alberta through carbon taxes
Maybe you need to re read my first post a little slower...... Upping min wage in Alberta hurt us, it didn't help us.
 

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Not saying the program works other to generate more tax revenue. However if teenage Jonny makes more at McDonald's or bubbles he has more money to spend at your clothing store or take his date to a movie thus continues the circle of the dollar. Yes you will have to pay your employee more to sell the now $80 T shirt but that employee will have more money to spend at the shoe store. The only time the circle fails if 1) you have a ****ty clothing store and can't maintain business but thats not minimum wages fault, it would have failed anyway just might happen sooner or 2) Jonny and your employee stop spending the extra money and just hord it.

Kevin oleary says it best, once the dollar stops moving its dead. Once its dead it can never come back.

Unfortunately our government kills most of the dollars

Jonny might loose his job entirely, because the boss can't afford to pay all his employees the new wage...! So instead of having 10 employees he makes due with 5..6..7 who knows.. What not take the minimun wage to 30 dollars, what would that hurt? Never mind kevin oleary.
 

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Not saying the program works other to generate more tax revenue. However if teenage Jonny makes more at McDonald's or bubbles he has more money to spend at your clothing store or take his date to a movie thus continues the circle of the dollar. Yes you will have to pay your employee more to sell the now $80 T shirt but that employee will have more money to spend at the shoe store. The only time the circle fails if 1) you have a ****ty clothing store and can't maintain business but thats not minimum wages fault, it would have failed anyway just might happen sooner or 2) Jonny and your employee stop spending the extra money and just hord it.

Kevin oleary says it best, once the dollar stops moving its dead. Once its dead it can never come back.

Unfortunately our government kills most of the dollars


it has been proven that raising wages, incurs costs to employers, who thus seek ways to reduce such costs, with less employees, more automation , usually more management employees on a monthly wage. your ideas although nice, just eliminate jobs not increase them and thus more people are out of work.
 

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it has been proven that raising wages, incurs costs to employers, who thus seek ways to reduce such costs, with less employees, more automation , usually more management employees on a monthly wage. your ideas although nice, just eliminate jobs not increase them and thus more people are out of work.

People not wanting to work for minimum wage and yes rising wages leads to automation. Fact is there are plenty of jobs out there and there is no reason other than personal choice to not be working.

Fact: regardless of minimum wage.... wages are not keeping up with expenditures. Cost are getting way out of hand.. just waiting for interest rates to increase, should be some good deals kicking around
 

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There has to be a hierarchy of pay for non celebrity or sports skills based on education, skills and work ethic. A neurosurgeon has to be paid more than a plumber, and a plumber has to be paid more than a fast food worker. The small business owner that works 80 hours a week has to be compensated more than an hourly paid employee that has no stake in the company.
If you don’t let the free market allow for this and try to artificially set wages, soon nobody will make the effort to become the neurosurgeon, plumber or small business owner. Arbitrarily setting an artificially high minimum wage or guaranteeing a basic minimum income is a socialist ideal that discourages incentive and promotes laziness. Socialism/communism is a political philosophy that has consistently failed.
If you create a system where striving to better ones self and situation is not rewarded, the system will stagnate and fail. As cruel as it may seem, there will always be people who are at the bottom of the social ladder, and people that will fail and need to be supported by the government. Conversely, there will be people who are fantastically rich, either through their labour, from inheritance or lust luck. The government trying to equalize income across the populace is an idiotic communistic idea that will never happen.
 
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