fynnigan
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Thoughts on the performance, fuel usage, and reliability. Kind of considering a smaller boat this time , probably one that used to come with a sportjet.
Thoughts on the performance, fuel usage, and reliability. Kind of considering a smaller boat this time , probably one that used to come with a sportjet.
Have to disagree with you here neilsleder. The motor has been out for a couple years now. Coyote, custom weld, kingfisher just to name a few are using them and getting good results. All the power of a V8 with far less weight is a huge gain. What does have me confused is they only seem to match them with a AT, maybe a torque thing pressure vs volume pumps???? Nothing wrong imo with the AT.Don’t think I’d buy one. Lots of issues and indamar isn’t standing behind them. Fire fish and other builders won’t put them in anymore because of that. From what I here when they run they work very good. I’d get the a few years to work bugs out.
some motors piling up in under 10hrs and they should be sold with a good tow rope. I don't think we are anywhere near saying they are a dependable power plant for a jet boat. I would call the a few of the other dealerships to ask their opinion. I have personally seen 3 or 4 low hr boats being towed down the river with that motor.
Have to disagree with you here neilsleder. The motor has been out for a couple years now. Coyote, custom weld, kingfisher just to name a few are using them and getting good results. All the power of a V8 with far less weight is a huge gain. What does have me confused is they only seem to match them with a AT, maybe a torque thing pressure vs volume pumps???? Nothing wrong imo with the AT.
I wouldn't shy away
When I spoke with gibbons about these issues this spring the conversation pretty much mirrors what you wrote. That being said it's been on the water for 2+ years now and they do seem to be standing behind the product, at least that was what was explained to me.The owner of gibbons say most of the issues were water ingestion. Either condensation from the inter cooler or leaking coolers. They had rusted/ fouled plugs to hydraulic motors. And once the green dot goes red no warranty. Them and coyote were getting they head engineer and few big wigs from indmar coming up to actually see the issues. So good on those guys for actually trying to get the issues figured
When I spoke with gibbons about these issues this spring the conversation pretty much mirrors what you wrote. That being said it's been on the water for 2+ years now and they do seem to be standing behind the product, at least that was what was explained to me.
It's very new product, I've personally witnessed many SJ's blow up, cracked blocks, thrown plugs and cracked heads under 100hrs but have also seen a few over 1000 trouble free. The local boat guy spends most of his summer repairing convicts as the seem to develop a bend in the transom that causes a porpoise issue. Too weak? Too much weight in the back? Too much abuse?
How many horror stories are on this site about various sleds blowing up on the first ride?
I honestly believe 200lbs of difference in boat is a huge savings. I don't know that the eco will pack the bigger loads that a 350 or a 6.2 will but how often is a jet boat actually loaded to the hilt, 1 or 2 hunting trips a year. Woodridge has built a few matched with a 212 and they do seem to work in their lighter models
NWhen I spoke with gibbons about these issues this spring the conversation pretty much mirrors what you wrote. That being said it's been on the water for 2+ years now and they do seem to be standing behind the product, at least that was what was explained to me.
It's very new product, I've personally witnessed many SJ's blow up, cracked blocks, thrown plugs and cracked heads under 100hrs but have also seen a few over 1000 trouble free. The local boat guy spends most of his summer repairing convicts as the seem to develop a bend in the transom that causes a porpoise issue. Too weak? Too much weight in the back? Too much abuse?
How many horror stories are on this site about various sleds blowing up on the first ride?
I honestly believe 200lbs of difference in boat is a huge savings. I don't know that the eco will pack the bigger loads that a 350 or a 6.2 will but how often is a jet boat actually loaded to the hilt, 1 or 2 hunting trips a year
Not picking a fight just trying to understand your thought process.Never heard about a bend in the transom on the convict, the ones I’ve been around have been great boats. To have the perfect boat you need about 6 different ones lol. As for sport jets yah lots go down lots run. I personally am done with mine and switching it out. 1UZ Lexus/Toyota 4.0L v8. It’s a bulletproof motor and weighs 566 pounds 300hp and 310ftp of torque. To bad they still don’t make them
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Not picking a fight just trying to understand your thought process.
Swapping out one extinct motor for another? Just because you want to?
Wrong lol they are blowing up left and right and Indmar is not looking after the issues. 178 pounds difference than a 6.2 its a no brainer for me.Have to disagree with you here neilsleder. The motor has been out for a couple years now. Coyote, custom weld, kingfisher just to name a few are using them and getting good results. All the power of a V8 with far less weight is a huge gain. What does have me confused is they only seem to match them with a AT, maybe a torque thing pressure vs volume pumps???? Nothing wrong imo with the AT.
I wouldn't shy away
"The local boat guy spends most of his summer repairing convicts as the seem to develop a bend in the transom that causes a porpoise issue" Too weak? Too much weight in the back? Too much abuse? Come on SWAT most of his summer ??? For one the hulls have warranty for life, for two they have huge trim tabs at the back to adjust for any ride issues, for 3 what are all the convicts doing hanging around the lake ? Sorry SWAT I call bullch!t on this only cuz I have put one through the paces and also in close contact with others.When I spoke with gibbons about these issues this spring the conversation pretty much mirrors what you wrote. That being said it's been on the water for 2+ years now and they do seem to be standing behind the product, at least that was what was explained to me.
It's very new product, I've personally witnessed many SJ's blow up, cracked blocks, thrown plugs and cracked heads under 100hrs but have also seen a few over 1000 trouble free. The local boat guy spends most of his summer repairing convicts as the seem to develop a bend in the transom that causes a porpoise issue. Too weak? Too much weight in the back? Too much abuse?
How many horror stories are on this site about various sleds blowing up on the first ride?
I honestly believe 200lbs of difference in boat is a huge savings. I don't know that the eco will pack the bigger loads that a 350 or a 6.2 will but how often is a jet boat actually loaded to the hilt, 1 or 2 hunting trips a year. Woodridge has built a few matched with a 212 and they do seem to work in their lighter models
"The local boat guy spends most of his summer repairing convicts as the seem to develop a bend in the transom that causes a porpoise issue" Too weak? Too much weight in the back? Too much abuse? Come on SWAT most of his summer ??? For one the hulls have warranty for life, for two they have huge trim tabs at the back to adjust for any ride issues, for 3 what are all the convicts doing hanging around the lake ? Sorry SWAT I call bullch!t on this only cuz I have put one through the paces and also in close contact with others.
I don’t think I have ever heard of any FF hull issues. And we have done some serious hull integrity testing.![]()