BC Hydro wants to raise EV charging fees

[LennyR]

Yes.

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[Zrock]

We all seen the writing on the wall Ev's are and will be more expensive to operate in the end. They will also consume more resources than our gas powered veh ever did... Someone somewhere sure has some creative math skills to show that they are better for the environment than our gas veh are. Feel bad for the small shops that are going to have to spend huge money to be trained and have the equipment to work on these things.. I asked our tech's today what kind of a pay bump they are going to get for working on these as they are extremely dangerous to work on as well. Told them i would not do it for less than triple my current pay..

 

[snopro]

I’m in Revelstoke , heat pump shut itself off yesterday and switched to auxiliary heat - the giant toaster in the basement $$$

So they kick out and don’t run at the same time as the furnace then?

 

[deaner]

I can't ever see going to a full EV, but our next family vehicle will most likely be a hybrid. Hopefully some good actual progress comes through these growing pains. We are considering the Toyota grand Highlander Hybrid. Pretty impressive fuel economy numbers for a larger SUV. Wish it was a full plug in hybrid though for the wife's commute

 

[jhurkot]

I can't ever see going to a full EV, but out next family vehicle will most likely be a hybrid. Hopefully some good actual progress comes through these growing pains. We are considering the Toyota grand Highlander Hybrid. Pretty impressive fuel economy numbers for a larger SUV. Wish it was a full plug in hybrid though for the wife's commute

A plug in hybrid works really well in the city.


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[acesup800]

We all seen the writing on the wall Ev's are and will be more expensive to operate in the end. They will also consume more resources than our gas powered veh ever did... Someone somewhere sure has some creative math skills to show that they are better for the environment than our gas veh are. Feel bad for the small shops that are going to have to spend huge money to be trained and have the equipment to work on these things.. I asked our tech's today what kind of a pay bump they are going to get for working on these as they are extremely dangerous to work on as well. Told them i would not do it for less than triple my current pay..

No one's getting triple pay....someone will always do the work for what it's worth. If you need an electrician to do the work, then they will simply require an electrical ticket and pay what that's worth. No ones getting $100/hr to work on a car.

 

[lilduke]

No one's getting triple pay....someone will always do the work for what it's worth. If you need an electrician to do the work, then they will simply require an electrical ticket and pay what that's worth. No ones getting $100/hr to work on a car.

Thats what I pay my mechanic to work on my chit. Just have to have your own shop.

 

[acesup800]

Thats what I pay my mechanic to work on my chit. Just have to have your own shop.

Well sure, you can make $100/hr cutting lawns if you own the business. He was talking about employees which is what I was referring to.

 

[ABMax24]

I can't ever see going to a full EV, but our next family vehicle will most likely be a hybrid. Hopefully some good actual progress comes through these growing pains. We are considering the Toyota grand Highlander Hybrid. Pretty impressive fuel economy numbers for a larger SUV. Wish it was a full plug in hybrid though for the wife's commute

We're in the same boat. Mitsubishi and Mazda both make plug in hybrid SUV's. But an EV certainly wouldn't work for us.

We're leaning toward the VW Atlas when the time comes. Not a hybrid but checks the rest of the boxes.

 

[jhurkot]

They are really daring me to go off grid….

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[lilduke]

Well sure, you can make $100/hr cutting lawns if you own the business. He was talking about employees which is what I was referring to.

I know. And i was pointing out you're better off to work for yourself.

 

[Zrock]

No one's getting triple pay....someone will always do the work for what it's worth. If you need an electrician to do the work, then they will simply require an electrical ticket and pay what that's worth. No ones getting $100/hr to work on a car.

You are going to be surprised.. this is not the same voltage your standard electrician has to deal with not to mention they do not have the training or tools to touch it. The voltages we are dealing with are closer to what a lineman would deal with... let me know how it works out for u when u call the local electrician out and he messes up and the batteries catch fire or explode... dealerships are not going to eat the expense of tooling,training, wage increase, and specialized bays to protect other staff members...

 

[moyiesledhead]

You are going to be surprised.. this is not the same voltage your standard electrician has to deal with not to mention they do not have the training or tools to touch it. The voltages we are dealing with are closer to what a lineman would deal with... let me know how it works out for u when u call the local electrician out and he messes up and the batteries catch fire or explode... dealerships are not going to eat the expense of tooling,training, wage increase, and specialized bays to protect other staff members...

Sure if all you've ever done is wire houses. Most electricians are way beyond that these days. B license is good up to 750 volts. My A license is unrestricted, and I've worked on systems up to 69kv. Been servicing UPS battery systems at EV type voltages for decades. The rest of an EV is just electronics and a motor, which we work on all the time.

 

[tejay]

So they kick out and don’t run at the same time as the furnace then?

No the heat pump is entirely off

 

[4extreme]

No the heat pump is entirely off

Will it turn on automatically?

 

[MP Kid]

You are going to be surprised.. this is not the same voltage your standard electrician has to deal with not to mention they do not have the training or tools to touch it. The voltages we are dealing with are closer to what a lineman would deal with... let me know how it works out for u when u call the local electrician out and he messes up and the batteries catch fire or explode... dealerships are not going to eat the expense of tooling,training, wage increase, and specialized bays to protect other staff members...

Not true…
My buddy is the service manager at a local GM dealership. GM just ships the specialized tools and they are expected to pay… they demand that certain number of techs are properly trained, and yes, they were required to install a specific post hoist to properly service the very few EV’s they might have in the area.

 

[Dawizman]

Will it turn on automatically?

They only work down to a certain temperature. Below that they won't work. The best cold climate pumps will work down to about -30, however standard units are only good for about -10°C

 

[sirkdev]

If you fellas are so inclined watch Edison motors on you tube he has it going on.. that to me is the future.

 

[Dawizman]

If you fellas are so inclined watch Edison motors on you tube he has it going on.. that to me is the future.

Definitely. Not sure why auto manufacturers skipped over the obvious evolution path other than government meddling. I have an eye on their pickup conversion.

 

[ABMax24]

Definitely. Not sure why auto manufacturers skipped over the obvious evolution path other than government meddling. I have an eye on their pickup conversion.

It's been a really messed up progression. Look at the reception the Toyota Prius received, which was arguably ahead of its time, but most people weren't going to be caught dead in one.

There were some hybrid cars over 10 years ago, the Chevy Volt being one, which was basically a short range EV with an 84hp Generator/Range Extender. It could go up to 80km on pure electric, and would average 5.6L/100km if never plugged in. But GM didn't really make money on them, and eventually ditched the model in 2019.

Outside of Tesla most EVs seem to be a flop, local VW dealer still has the first 2 ID.4's they brought in sitting on the lot, City Ford still has a couple '22 Mustang Mach E's they are trying to get rid of. Meanwhile it's an almost year long waitlist to get a Toyota Hybrid, not sure why more Manufacturers aren't following what Toyota is doing. My parents have had a Rav4 Hybrid for almost a year now, mom averages 6.3 L/100km going back and forth to work, her Tiguan it replaced got 10L/100km on the same route. That's a pretty sizable fuel savings for a $2,200 option.