1000 Honda V twin dirt bike????

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Artist sketch of the 2015 CRF1000 Africa Twin by Stefan Kraft of Motorrad Magazine.

Popular German motorcycle magazine Motorrad (circulation of 135,000) is reporting in their that Honda plans to build a new Africa Twin that could revolutionize the Adventure Touring market. This new model isn’t another bloated 1200cc GS wannabe or adventure styled street bike, but a proper Adventure Bike with a real dirt focus.
Vito Cicchetti, General Manager of Honda Italy confirmed last year a new Africa Twin has been in the works and is coming soon. Now Motorrad is providing some details about potential specifications and where the new Africa Twin might fit in the market.
Motorrad reports that Honda would like to fill a hole in the market between the large 1200cc touring focused Adventure Bikes and dirt focused 650cc Dual Sport bikes. Currently, this segment has a real lack of variety made even worse with the discontinuation of the KTM 990 Adventure and Honda Transalp 700 in recent years. Honda’s Crossrunner 800, NC700X and CB500X are little more than budget street bikes dressed up in adventure clothing, with no intentions for off-road use. Clearly, Honda is in need of a proper Adventure Bike and entering the less-competitive middle-weight market would be a smart place to start.
Motorrad’s reported specs for this new Africa Twin (model code CRF1000) describe an Adventure Bike inspired by Honda’s 450cc Dakar Rally Production Racer. Styling and technology from the Rally bike would form the basis for the new Africa Twin. After Honda’s return to the Dakar Rally in 2013 from a 23 year absence (winning 5 titles during the 1980′s), it would make sense that they would want to capitalize on their new racing heritage.
[h=5]The original Africa Twin was built in homage to the giant desert racers of the Paris-Dakar Rally.[/h]
It’s a story with a familiar ring. The original XRV750 Africa Twin from the late eighties was based on the NXR-750 Paris-Dakar Rally bike. It was a big Adventure Bike (a bit on the heavy side) that you could actually take off-road. It offered smooth V-Twin power and the dependability of a Honda for long-distance travel. The legendary Africa Twin was discontinued in 2003, but remains a popular choice for Adventure Riders. Unfortunately, they never imported the Africa Twin to the US or Canada.
Potential specs reported by Motorrad describe a new Africa Twin with a 1000cc Parallel-Twin instead of a V-Twin (apparently for cost saving purposes). The engine output would be around 100 hp with a dry weight of 397 lb (180 kg) and price tag of roughly $13,800 US. The bike would ride on a 21″ front wheel and 17″ rear, with 9.8 inches (250 mm) of suspension travel.
The design is described as more off-road focused than the KTM 1190 R, BMW F800GS or XTZ660 Tenere, but not quite as dirt oriented as the KTM 690 Enduro R. It’s expected to use a special off-road ABS like the one found on the Dakar Rally production racer as well.
Competitors at a Glance
Adventure Bike ModelsDry Weight
(lbs.)
Fuel Capacity
(US Gal)
Fr./Rr. Susp. Travel
(inches)
HP Price
(US $)
2003 Honda Africa Twin XRV7504566.18.7/8.461N/A
2013 KTM 990 Adventure R4385.310.4/10.4113$14,999
2014 BMW F800GS4214.29.1/8.585$12,100
2015 Honda Africa Twin CRF1000 3975.39.8/9.8100$13,800
2014 BMW Sertão G650GS3914.78.3/8.350$8,650

It appears that Honda’s formula for success is to build a reliable, fairly light-weight, low-maintenance, attractive Adventure Bike with serious off-road intentions and good comfort on the highway. It’s the holy grail of Adventure Bikes that has never quite been attained by any manufacturer. While some bikes have come close, there always seems to be something missing, something not quite there, some flaw that keeps the bike from achieving the complete package. With this new Africa Twin, it seems possible that Honda could draw significant market share from its competitors and become a runaway sales success.

These claims of liter-bike power with the weight of a 650cc Adventure Bike all sound a bit too good to be true though. But who better to revolutionize a market than Honda? They’ve done it before with the 1992 CBR900RR. After years of careful planning, they produced a sport bike with the weight of a 600cc and liter-class power. Could they do the same thing again with Adventure Bikes?
There is no way to know for sure if this is the bike Honda will produce. But we do know that a new Africa Twin will be released soon and that Honda has registered the “Africa Twin” trademark with the US Trademark Office, evidence that it could be coming to US shores this time around. Motorrad expects to see the new Africa Twin debut at either the INTERMOT or EICMA show later this year, and a launch as a 2015 model.
Let’s keep our fingers crossed and hope that this new Honda turns out to be anything close to these incredible specs. Most Adventure Riders would be happy with a 700-800cc engine and a sub-400 pound dry weight. If they are able to achieve their weight target with a 1000cc, even better.
 

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this may be my bucket list Yukon Alaska bike... sorry not sure it should be in the dirt bike section but i don't really go to the street bike section
 

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Wow. If that is really coming out I am very interested. Good price point too if the canadian pricing is close. If it jumps to 17-18000, sorry I am going with ktm.
 

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yes, the real wild you are correct... im with you... i really like the bmw 800's as well... but i read somewhere the original african v twin never got released in North America... I hate how we miss out on street legal dirtbikes... just gov't money grabbing and job creation nothing else... did you know Austrilia has a street legal factory built Honda 450x...

anyhow if it does come to NA... i imagine the first year it will be expensive after that we should be alright... gives us time to watch them work the bugs out
 

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Just dust off the plans on the original Africa Twin, give it FI and decent suspension and price it at 8.5K, done, instant best seller.
 

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Just dust off the plans on the original Africa Twin, give it FI and decent suspension and price it at 8.5K, done, instant best seller.
...and it will stick with Honda's marketing theme of being a decade behind everyone else....
 

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Just dust off the plans on the original Africa Twin, give it FI and decent suspension and price it at 8.5K, done, instant best seller.
That would be fricken awesome but no way the price would be that low. But it would sell like crazy.
 

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They are putting the final touches on a huge new market launch........

Y2K generators.

wow you really are the honda troll arent you... seriously you own a poo poo shop or what? Wait maybe your own market shares in their service department to replace all the broken parts
 
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