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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    this guy is as big of a stammering idiot as the one that leads our country.

    on one hand he says the lower number than BC is because of the habitat (less mountainous terrain), then the next he says that they are running away and avoiding only ATV trails and Roads..........

    He's totally funded by one of the ENGO's
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerG View Post
    this guy is as big of a stammering idiot as the one that leads our country.

    on one hand he says the lower number than BC is because of the habitat (less mountainous terrain), then the next he says that they are running away and avoiding only ATV trails and Roads..........

    He's totally funded by one of the ENGO's
    Can you post a link to the interview?
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerG View Post
    this guy is as big of a stammering idiot as the one that leads our country.

    on one hand he says the lower number than BC is because of the habitat (less mountainous terrain), then the next he says that they are running away and avoiding only ATV trails and Roads..........

    He's totally funded by one of the ENGO's
    Full of hot air, made up facts and white lies....ooops, he could be Trump.
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    Quote Originally Posted by rknight111 View Post
    Can you post a link to the interview?
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    This Dr is conducting there research in the Cadomin area, the next area to be hit by the NDP and Y2Y. Have any quadders seen these camera's on the trails?
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    Okay I’ll bite.
    Few Notes.

    1. These environmentalists believe that Nature takes ALL priority over man. They do not see man as PART of Nature. They are willing to sacrifice economy, industry, social programs and our entire society fortheir “beliefs”. It’s not that they love nature, their driver is they don’t like other people - driven by their personal envy and distain.
    2. This big push to “Protect” an APEX predator, is ONLY to gain public appeal for the real objectives. Who doesn’t like bears, they are USING Mr Fuzzy for public appeal in support of their real objectives. Protecting the TOP of the food chain has decimated the ecosystem where pushed before. (elkherds, calves etc) Where Y2Y pushed this down south, all but Montana have opened up Grizzly bear hunting again, and Montana is evaluating.
    3. Confirmation Bias is NOT science. (The act of searching for, interpreting, favoring, and recalling information in a way that confirms one's pre-existing beliefs). Science is not data mining information to support your objectives and validate your beliefs.
    4. Why is every single “Professional” speaking on the environment, either tied by direct funding or close association with “Yellowstone to Yukon (and in this case one of their partners like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers), CPAWS, NCC, Land Trust Syndicate, or funded by this Government.” They are all connected through US funded foundations on a ambition to lock up our access to our own land, masking the reasoning as concern for the environment. Many have no clue how they are being used.
    5. Money. This is all about the money, not the environment. Land trust syndicates receive your tax money in grants, to pay people up to 80% of their land value. The donors and organizations supporting these land grabs are fully tax deductible, INCLUDING for US organizations donating to Canadian organizations. It’s a tax shelter, and a funded one by public taxes. Shannon Phillips has given well over 10 Million of our public money in the last couple of years to these Land Trust Syndicates.

      We need to speak up on what is presented as science, who is spouting it, and their funding. Alberta and Canada’s future far beyond recreation is at threat - the $17 Alberta Oil vs $79 West Texas Oil, attack on our pipelines are all results of those supporting these groups agendas.

      As far as Marc Boyce’s credibility to “science”,guess who’s funding the research.
      Funding:This study was funded by the organizations listed below, including: AlbertaConservation Association ,Alberta Environment and Parks, Drywood YarrowConservation Partnership, Miistakis Institute (land trust syndicate supporter),Safari Club International and surprisesurprise - Yellowstone to Yukon.

      https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0165425


    What can you do? Do not be silent. Call your MLA, call 310-0000 ask for the Premiers/Environment Misters office – and ask them why they are working with, and supporting foreign funded groups instead of Albertans.Why are they funding these tax shelters and groups? Do not let up on being heard, only public awareness of this issue will create pressure to fix it. The UCP is s start, but the problem is far deeper in the bureaucracy.
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    They are all for immigrating millions of people into Alberta and wonder why the Bears want to GTFO.

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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    So my firstreaction is…so what? Bears are moving away from trails. The presenter indicated that bear numbers areincreasing…thus, so what?
    He alsoindicated that there are increasing problem bears in places where g.bears havenot been seen before, in particular the SW part of the province. He also admitted that this was happening elsewherein the province. BUT OHV’s needed to be eliminatedfrom the Castle; (quote) ‘Something had to give...” The evidence appears to say OHV’s causebears.
    Standingback and listening to the results of the study that bears avoid OHV trails buthave no aversion to hiking MTB etc trails, makes me do some thinking around backcountryuser safety.
    Even thoughwe all see all kinds of wildlife when out riding, if some animals such as toppredators are moving away from the trail, this is a good thing. It means when we are on machine we are lesslikely to have a bear encounter. When I’mtraveling with seniors, kids and the odd pet; I have no interest in coming faceto face with an angry bear. I am muchhappier when the bear is standing waayy over there.
    Now back tothe non-motorized users; they get to go face these bears out on the trails witha can of bear spray. This research showsthat the bears have no fear of man on foot. In our recreation planning processes we have to consider user safety…andwe are by design putting people at risk.
    We have allheard that a human-bear conflict leads to a dead bear. Now we are putting the bears at risk.
    Further onuser safety, removing motorized access severely limits Search & Rescuecapabilities when people start getting chewed on back 10-20 km. This is an additional risk is being place onour non-motorized users.
    I say bearsmoving away from the trail is a good thing.




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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    so do you think that banning the off road back country use, is step 1, step 2 may be banning people all together?
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    Re: Grizzly bears and quadding in Alberta

    from what i am hearing on the jungle drums, the NDP are going ahead with the bighorn park designation! as in already getting it done!!
    another day "{Deus Vult"

    Beware the old man , in the land, where they tend to die young!

    my glass is neither half full nor half empty!! i find it's just not tall enough!

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