We actually have riding experience with the stock Skinz seats for a Arctic Cat M's and Nytro's. You'll find that they are grippy, and they are taller than stock for any of the sleds out there. The foam density is quite dense so there is not a lot of give. The main thing to keep in mind is they have been developed for mountain riding and not high mileage trail riding. The weight of these seats is also lite and they will not absorb and hold alot of moisture like the stock seats generally do. Hope this helps, feel free to drop ua a pm if you have any further questions.