2014 cat, yes there is a di 2 stroke

[Rjjtcross8]

So apparently cat did release a di motor for 2014 however it's just the rumored 600 not a new 800 (still using ho for 14) the yami four stroke replaces the 1100 na and the 1100 turbo remains however supposedly 18 pounds lighter. Clutches are improved for 14 (30 percent cooler) and new graphics as usual. Some changes for sure but nothing to impress our western market in my opinion.

 

[maxwell]

Just wait remember skidoo released its 600 Etec one year previous to the 800. So it's comin I'm sure

 

[Rjjtcross8]

Just wait remember skidoo released its 600 Etec one year previous to the 800. So it's comin I'm sure

You might be very well right maxwell.

 

[Cat401]

Just wait remember skidoo released its 600 Etec one year previous to the 800. So it's comin I'm sure

Bingo!

 

[LennyR]

I don't believe Cats issues right now are motor related. It's the chassis and get on top of the snow ability. The motors are the strong point.

 

[maxwell]

I don't believe Cats issues right now are motor related. It's the chassis and get on top of the snow ability. The motors are the strong point.

i would agree with that. my dads m8 feels like its got good power, the delivery is a little sluggish but its there. but it deffinetly does NOT get up on the snow.

 

[Summitric]

Thought i read somewhere that the new 600 cat is electronic oil injected, like the 600 doo was for a while, but not direct fuel injected yet??? Am i wrong?

 

[TylerG]

Thought i read somewhere that the new 600 cat is electronic oil injected, like the 600 doo was for a while, but not fuel injected yet??? Am i wrong?

you are incorrect.... there are lots of video's released by Arctic Cat last night that shows the injection.......

Also Cat's have been injected for years already, the only motors that were not injected when I was working for them were the 570's.

 

[Summitric]

Sorry, i meant direct injected........ Already know they are fuel injected..............

 

[etecheaven]

wait so didn't doo release a 600 etec in 2010? so here we are 2014 and cat is finally doing something of the same. Good on cat... cause I don't see anything from polaris yet.

 

[TylerG]

Sorry, i meant direct injected........ Already know they are fuel injected..............

 

[LennyR]

wait so didn't doo release a 600 etec in 2010? so here we are 2014 and cat is finally doing something of the same. Good on cat... cause I don't see anything from polaris yet.

So please explain why you care or why that's a concern of yours , you gonna buy one if they come with DI ?

 

[Summitric]

SO THE NEW EL TIGRE ZR6000 IS EFI, 3D MAPPING(NOT DIRECT INJECTED), BUT OIL IS ELECTRONIC INJECTION............................ THE ENGINE IS NOT DIRECT FUEL INJECTED YET, LIKE THE BRP'S ARE..... SOMETHING ABOUT PATENT TOO?? .,....... JUS' SAYIN'

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ZR 6000 El Tigre ES

$11,599 USD



Engine

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Type	2-stroke
Displacement	599cc
Cooling	Liquid
Cylinders	2
Bore x Stroke	73.8 x 70 mm
Lubrication	Electronic Injection
Ignition	3D sequential fire, throttle position sensor
Carburetion	47 mm dual throttle body batteryless EFI
Exhaust	APV with tuned pipe, pipe sensor and stainless steel muffler
Fuel Capacity	12 gal.

Powertrain

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Drive Clutch	Arctic 6 post (rpm sensing)
Driven Clutch	10.75 in. dia. Arctic (roller cam)
Drive System	Arctic Drive System
Brakes	Radial master cylinder hydraulic brake / disc on driveshaft

Suspension

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Front Suspension	Arctic Race Suspension with FOX FLOAT 3 shocks and sway bar
Front Travel	10 in.
Rear Travel	13.5 in.
Rear Suspension	FasTrack slide-action suspension with Tri-hub rear axle system, couple blocks, torque sensing link, adjustable torsion springs, Arctic Cat (IFP) shocks (2" dia. rear shock)

Dimensions

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Overall Length	118 in.
Overall Width	48 in.
Ski Stance	42-43 in. adjustable
Ski Type	Trail 6 in.
Runner Type	Dual skag w/carbide
Track Type	Ripsaw
Track Width	15 in.
Track Length	129 in.
Lug	1.25 in.
Pitch	2.86 in.

Standard

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Push-button reverse, dual halogen headlight (2-bulb), front bumper, adjustable handlebar, deluxe digital gauge, electric gas gauge, low oil light, coolant overheat light, clock, high/low hand & thumb warmers, belt holder, accessory outlet, mid-height windshield, electric start, air pump

Optional

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2-up seat, tank pads, (ex low, flyscreen, low, mid, high) windshield, mirrors, rack, hitch, tether switch, hand guards, front sport bumper, premium shocks

Specifications Subject to Change

 

[craptabulous]

Go take your meds. It's just an observation.
The reason others haven't gone to DI is probably a technology/patent thing or they can make emissions without it. Doesn't make the sled ride any different really.

they dont own direct injection . Several outboard manufacturers have been putting di on there engines years before brp ever did . Not to mention ford and chevy . Or non pre cup diesel engines , so since di has been around since the 50's , possibly longer . I think they will be alright , as far as patent laws go

 

[LennyR]

The infer'ing you mention is only in due to your interpretation of the post and his screen name.
Your just a doo H8R really. Pretty sure if anyone not riding a doo had posted that you wouldn't have said a damn thing.

Nope, as I've said in many posts, there are a ton of things I like about the XM, great sled, ton of things I like about the Pro, great sled, Cat...not so much....yet.

This year I'd be happy on either of them. I just get sick of the silliness of guys ranting about one and bashing the other, its just immature and insecurity yapping. The Doo, awesome motor but still a bandaided XP in a lot of ways. The Pro, hands down best chassis, still needs a better motor and refinements in belt drive which is gonna be an awesome feature. Driveshaft issue, itll be fixed, Doo fuel nipple issue, it"ll be fixed, teeter totter thingy my opinion, it'll go away in the next couple years. As so many have said tho, Doo 160 HP Poo 145 HP, Doo should be runaway winner in all facets.... but it isn't. 15 HP is huge difference, wheres it going ?
So, good job Doo, good job Polaris, 2 great sleds. But they both can get better. IMO.

P.S. I did hate the XP, always was an ill handling mountain sled chassis. Trail sled roots.

 

[dezmitchell]

Bump ..... when will this be on A.C's web site?


OHHH ok i watched the vid and that made sence ....on there web site they just say fuel injection. So its not a FULL D.I. system am i getting this right its D.I until higher RPMs and then the old throttle body efi fuel dilevery system kicks in. Do i have this correct or am i way out to lunch?

Also are the e-teks like this also or are they full D.I ?

 

[Wilk INStheWEST]

It's already on the ArcticCat youtube page...see the video posted above...

 

[Summitric]

bump ..... When will this be on a.c's web site?


Ohhh ok i watched the vid and that made sence ....on there web site they just say fuel injection. So its not a full d.i. System am i getting this right its d.i until higher rpms and then the old throttle body efi fuel dilevery system kicks in. Do i have this correct or am i way out to lunch?

Also are the e-teks like this also or are they full d.i ?

etecs are d.i. ........ That is why there is a patent on 2 stroke d.i. By brp..........I believe no one else has this technology, and that is why brp bought evinrude/johnson, for their efi d.i. Technology

 

[Wilk INStheWEST]

It seems that the Cat engine is injecting to a different location. Is that a way to get around the patent?

 

[Scotty]

I read that the direct injection has to do with the oil injectors only?????????? just saying. Love it that they brought back the El'Tigre name!