Heavy handling of the turbo vs N/A help!!

schiermnultra · Dec 23, 2020

bcjasonj said:
Is it just me or does the turbo feel very heavy and you really have to work hard to throw it around vs NA G4 doos? It almost feels like and OG rev chassis where the skis just want to stay planted and hard to initiate off camber. I love the power but just feels like 50lbs heavier in the handling vs the actual 16lbs. Coming off 20 165 Expert which I almost regret selling just because it felt so much better to ride in technical terrain. So in saying that if you have noticed this also what have you done and results? I've cranked up skid front shock preload to take some weight off front end, was debating throwing a can / exh on to kill 10lbs or so. I have springs front and rear turned pretty soft to keep the ski pressure low to help with the heavy feeling, but still not even close to what I thought it would be. Love it but can't believe it feels so much piggier vs my regular G4. Appreciate your input!

Totally agree. For a turbo snowmobile the power and response is fantastic but the sled feels heavier especially at slow speeds and I think it’s due to clutching alone. Riding both 2020 expert na and 2021 turbo back to back the n/a sled feels like a toy. Faster and more controlled through the trees on the N/A. The n/a is much more responsive on the bottom.

powpowpowpow · Dec 24, 2020

Lets be fair, any oem sled with and without turbo there will be weight difference that is noticeable. Doo did a great job and now its up th the consumer if the extra 30-40hp is worth the feeling of a bit more weight. And from reading the posts it sounds like it is totally worth it.

Teth-Air · Dec 24, 2020

powpowpowpow said:
Lets be fair, any oem sled with and without turbo there will be weight difference that is noticeable. Doo did a great job and now its up th the consumer if the extra 30-40hp is worth the feeling of a bit more weight. And from reading the posts it sounds like it is totally worth it.

Lets also remember that the turbo is higher up and off to the exhaust side. This raises the center of gravity. I will say though, Ski-doo did a pretty good job with centering the weight on the G4 chassis. It is difficult to have relative heavy clutches sticking out one side and keep these things balanced.

catrutt · Dec 24, 2020

I turn the front shock springs up to keep the front end from diving. If they are to soft I find it handles poor and feels heavy.

snopro · Dec 24, 2020

catrutt said:
I turn the front shock springs up to keep the front end from diving. If they are to soft I find it handles poor and feels heavy.

Front shocks turned up, front skid shop turned up and rear shock set up for the rider will alleviate that heavy feeling. Limiter strap adjusted out will make it easier to make the ski's light at slower speeds but you will hate it on a climb.

NoBrakes! · Dec 24, 2020

If guys put 1% of the effort into figuring these sleds out that went into the 4 stroke era...

Those guys helped each other, would be nice to see again.

SnowJunkie82 · Dec 24, 2020

schiermnultra said:
Totally agree. For a turbo snowmobile the power and response is fantastic but the sled feels heavier especially at slow speeds and I think it’s due to clutching alone. Riding both 2020 expert na and 2021 turbo back to back the n/a sled feels like a toy. Faster and more controlled through the trees on the N/A. The n/a is much more responsive on the bottom.

In your case I think the fat guy riding the sled is the issue! My 850T feels light as a feather!

schiermnultra · Dec 24, 2020

SnowJunkie82 said:
In your case I think the fat guy riding the sled is the issue! My 850T feels light as a feather!

Oh boy here we go. I’m not sure it’s fair to pick on a guys weight during a pandemic lock down. I guess that’s why my wife just came home with a spin bike and a set of ankle weights for me. I thought that was a little aggressive.

maxwell · Dec 24, 2020

My wife rides an 850T and would probably
Stomp on 90% of y’all. She never said it felt heavy. LMao

SnowJunkie82 · Dec 24, 2020

maxwell said:
My wife rides an 850T and would probably
Stomp on 90% of y’all. She never said it felt heavy. LMao

Found a picture of your wife! She could definitely out ride me!

oler1234 · Dec 24, 2020

WOW this thread is filled with garbage... just get out and ride your sleds.

bunch of women complaining about how your sled handle... It aint a 4S sled, your suspension setup is weak if you think it handles heavy

by the way my 175 turbski is 7lbs heavier on exhaust side.

Merc63 · Dec 25, 2020

So many useless hero’s on this site, love to hear their own voice. No one is complaining, just having a discussion to see if others noticed the difference between the NA850.

fredw · Dec 25, 2020

https://fb.watch/2C3miTLxIY/

looks like the last thing it would be is heavy by that vid.. more like a balancing tight rope

maxwell · Dec 25, 2020

oler1234 said:
WOW this thread is filled with garbage... just get out and ride your sleds.

bunch of women complaining about how your sled handle... It aint a 4S sled, your suspension setup is weak if you think it handles heavy

by the way my 175 turbski is 7lbs heavier on exhaust side.

Yea so aftermarket can and it would be perfectly
Balanced. Just make sure your dealers cool
With it

oler1234 · Dec 25, 2020

maxwell said:
Yea so aftermarket can and it would be perfectly
Balanced. Just make sure your dealers cool
With it

sorry let me clarify, 7lbs clutch side!!! Way too much boozin last night.

maxwell · Dec 25, 2020

oler1234 said:
sorry let me clarify, 7lbs clutch side!!! Way too much boozin last night.

Lol me too. Now that’s surprising considering the huge muffler and the turbo assembly is further to the exhaust side.

Caper11 · Dec 25, 2020

oler1234 said:
sorry let me clarify, 7lbs clutch side!!! Way too much boozin last night.

Thats the approx difference that I got when I weighed my ski pressures, I was puzzled by your original comment earlier, and wondered if I messed up, lol.
Thanks for clarifying.

oler1234 · Dec 25, 2020

So for all you dummies adding a lightweight can, your negatively impacting the balance/predictability of this sled...

I will not say anything more as I have been through 3 bottles of wine, 1 fireball and a sangria... but who cares what I post about this more or less Garbage filled thread.

anyone want to ride on New Years? I will give free suspension tuning help to those that need it!

1100 · Dec 26, 2020

Full chew before you arch out oler1234, what’s your track speed? Maxwell just tells me what I want to hear!

maxwell · Dec 26, 2020

1100 said:
Full chew before you arch out oler1234, what’s your track speed? Maxwell just tells me what I want to hear!

Lol I think mine is 80 kmh

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