Self Leveling Concrete, Large Pour.

skegpro · Feb 26, 2018

Anyone know a contractor that would take on a 40' x 100' x 2" self leveling pour?

Or know a place that will deliver mixed truckloads of self leveling concrete in the Edmonton area?

Thanks

Crazy8 · Feb 26, 2018

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skegpro · Feb 26, 2018

https://youtu.be/aqH7Ax1-Oo0

Something like this.

sledn · Feb 27, 2018

Wish this Gypcrete had some strength .Don't think It's suitable/durable for normal use .Very common in apartments under flooring for fire stop. Place-Crete also installs it.

pete gads · Feb 27, 2018

I second Place-crete, from St. albert, they have been around for 30 yrs.

Chronic Cat · Feb 27, 2018

Out of curiosity, why does it need to be self levelling? That's like a 8"+ slump lol!

Cyle · Feb 27, 2018

sledn said:
Wish this Gypcrete had some strength .Don't think It's suitable/durable for normal use .Very common in apartments under flooring for fire stop. Place-Crete also installs it.

It has zero strength. There is a different product, Lafarge calls it agilia that is self leveling too, and is suppose to be suitable as regular concrete. But IMO there is no way it has the same strength, not worth it.

Cyle · Feb 27, 2018

Chronic Cat said:
Out of curiosity, why does it need to be self levelling? That's like a 8"+ slump lol!

So the end product is much flatter, without near the work.

skegpro · Feb 27, 2018

Chronic Cat said:
Out of curiosity, why does it need to be self levelling? That's like a 8"+ slump lol!

I have a 40'x50' heated shop with some old concrete that needs a face lift.
About 500sqft of that shop the concrete is spaulding and I would like to try and salvage it as structurally it is still good.
To far gone to grind in my mind......

Secondly, I have a old 40' x 80' barn that I would like to convert to a man cave, but the first step is seeing if I can salvage the floor. It was a hog barn in the 90's and has 8ft deep pits on both side walls that I will fill with sand but then I need to pour a new slab over the entire thing. Floor is sloped from the center out. Will not be heavy traffic as there is only 9ft ceilings.

I figured a 2-4" pour of self leveler would be best, but I am no expert and am seeking some knowledge.

Ultimately would like to just do a traditional pour but have been told there is a minimum thickness.........

plio7 · Feb 27, 2018

That’s agilia if expensive a/f you would be better off
Hiring a crew to place a 3-4” slab on top and get some decent reinforcing in it. I would recommend ess out of Edmonton/devon if your set on the self leveling idea bit there is no real cheap way to do that and if the slab below isn’t sound it will just pop anyways

skegpro · Feb 27, 2018

plio7 said:
That’s agilia if expensive a/f you would be better off
Hiring a crew to place a 3-4” slab on top and get some decent reinforcing in it. I would recommend ess out of Edmonton/devon if your set on the self leveling idea bit there is no real cheap way to do that and if the slab below isn’t sound it will just pop anyways

Thanks.

Any idea what the thinest traditional slab is you can pour?

Already have 6" in the barn and shop.

plio7 · Feb 27, 2018

Lots of residential in the past are 3-3 1/2” which would be fine. Put in a mat of 10m rebar and it would be fine. Especially on an existing. I believe you can go as low as a 2” slab but I wouldn’t risk it. And as I said if you do want to look at the self leveling route talk to Dan at ESS http://www.esscanada.ca/contactUs/
Great guys that know their stuff. I use them exclusively for resurfacing on my commercial projects

BEL · Feb 27, 2018

For the shop why not just put on a polyspartic coating. Lots of contractors doing that, you can pick a cool colour/design and save the money for the floor in the barn?

skegpro · Feb 27, 2018

BEL said:
For the shop why not just put on a polyspartic coating. Lots of contractors doing that, you can pick a cool colour/design and save the money for the floor in the barn?

Calcium and salt in the past 10 years has eaten 1/2 deep spaulding in the shop slab.

Expoxy and Polyspartic doesn't really stand up to farm machinery,forklifts and carbides.

But it looks great in my garage.

plio7 · Feb 27, 2018

skegpro said:
Calcium and salt in the past 10 years has eaten 1/2 deep spaulding in the shop slab.

Expoxy and Polyspartic doesn't really stand up to farm machinery,forklifts and carbides.

But it looks great in my garage.

If its just Spaulding and not cracked/ heaving then a topping mix may work. But as I said before resurfacing can be more expansive than just pouring new in top or even replacing. If it’s a 6” slab that is only damaged 1/2” deep and your not planning on heavy use then grinding down may not be a bad option

skegpro · Feb 27, 2018

plio7 said:
If its just Spaulding and not cracked/ heaving then a topping mix may work. But as I said before resurfacing can be more expansive than just pouring new in top or even replacing. If it’s a 6” slab that is only damaged 1/2” deep and your not planning on heavy use then grinding down may not be a bad option

Yeah it's our main shop so it sees alot of heavy use, might be easiest to repour.

****ty part is it has infloor heat.

Cyle · Feb 27, 2018

skegpro said:
Thanks.

Any idea what the thinest traditional slab is you can pour?

Already have 6" in the barn and shop.

I would not pour anything less then 4" with 10mm rebar on 16" centers, that is the bare minimum to get decent strength for a slab like that (yea many go less, but go look at ones 5-10 years old and you'll see why you should do a bit more). If you are going on it with anything heavy in a shop setting, minimum 6" slab with 15mm rebar on 12" centers. If you are 100% sure the current pad is structurally ok you can top it, but no one is going to guarantee anything as it's purely cosmetic and will not provide any strength.

JustChilling19 · Feb 27, 2018

I’m far from an expert on this but recently saw a rubberized concrete replacement. It apparently is good to fix old worn out concrete and whatnot. Saw and felt the product and thought it was interesting. I’ll try forward more information tomorrow. May be a cheap and easy option for you to consider?

skegpro · Feb 27, 2018

JustChilling19 said:
I’m far from an expert on this but recently saw a rubberized concrete replacement. It apparently is good to fix old worn out concrete and whatnot. Saw and felt the product and thought it was interesting. I’ll try forward more information tomorrow. May be a cheap and easy option for you to consider?

Cool thx

Chronic Cat · Feb 27, 2018

Well fellas, I run a 38m pump and we are known to travel. Walls, footings, shop floors. Whatever you want. 2 38m pumps and 1 smaller 28. Located in Camrose

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