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Words cannot be said for how much those two disgust me. Tony was a hothead as well, but, he learned how to treat people in short order after being fined by Home Depot and almost dropped his deal. Kurt needs to watch a few races from the sidelines, and maybe he will see he needs NASCAR more than they need him. Seemed to calm Kyle down a bit. Penske said that Kurt doesn't represent the views of the sponsors or Penske racing. If he is wearing their colors I think he does. POS!:chainsaw:

If he isnt representing your business or the sponsor wouldnt you think it would be time to "drop the axe?"
 

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I hear ya! gonna be a LONG offseason starting already. On a side note who do you think is gonna be stewarts crew cheif? Is he gonna work a deal with Grubb at the final minute or end up with Steve Addington or better yet, Zippy????

I would really like to see him and Zippy team back up or otherwise resign Grubb. Steve Addington is maybe an alright crew cheif but I think he has been rode hard and set up wet after being with the douche brothers.
 

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I think the Addington deal is a done deal already. Can you imagine how good that guy will be without having a driver call him a jackass every 3 laps? I think Darian will end up back at Hendrick or with one of the top Toyota teams by the rumor mill. Sirrius said the other day that the only way Zippy can get out of his contract at Gibbs is to accept a position higher than the one he already has at Gibbs and that would be director of competition at Stewart Haas. So say the experts.
 

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I think the Addington deal is a done deal already. Can you imagine how good that guy will be without having a driver call him a jackass every 3 laps? I think Darian will end up back at Hendrick or with one of the top Toyota teams by the rumor mill. Sirrius said the other day that the only way Zippy can get out of his contract at Gibbs is to accept a position higher than the one he already has at Gibbs and that would be director of competition at Stewart Haas. So say the experts.

If Grubb stays a crew cheif and goes to hendrick I would think the only 2 people he could go to would be Jr. or Johnson. I wouldnt think Jr. since he is working good with Letarte but maybe Johnson???? otherwise maybe to MWR to crew chief Bowyer? there is another possibilty. How bout this, zippy gets competition director at stewart haas and Grubb becomes lagonos crew cheif?!?!?!?!? many possibilities. But if Grubb goes to hendrick he might get shuffled behind the scenes because I wouldnt think hendrick would let kanus leave the organization. Maybe Kanus or Grubb will take Alan gustafson's place on the #24 team! This will be intresting to say the least.
 

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If Grubb stays a crew cheif and goes to hendrick I would think the only 2 people he could go to would be Jr. or Johnson. I wouldnt think Jr. since he is working good with Letarte but maybe Johnson???? otherwise maybe to MWR to crew chief Bowyer? there is another possibilty. How bout this, zippy gets competition director at stewart haas and Grubb becomes lagonos crew cheif?!?!?!?!? many possibilities. But if Grubb goes to hendrick he might get shuffled behind the scenes because I wouldnt think hendrick would let kanus leave the organization. Maybe Kanus or Grubb will take Alan gustafson's place on the #24 team! This will be intresting to say the least.

They were saying the other day that maybe Knaus could move up to director of competition at Hendrick. Grubb has worked with JJ before with great success after Chad was suspended. Whatta ya think?
 

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If Grubb stays a crew cheif and goes to hendrick I would think the only 2 people he could go to would be Jr. or Johnson. I wouldnt think Jr. since he is working good with Letarte but maybe Johnson???? otherwise maybe to MWR to crew chief Bowyer? there is another possibilty. How bout this, zippy gets competition director at stewart haas and Grubb becomes lagonos crew cheif?!?!?!?!? many possibilities. But if Grubb goes to hendrick he might get shuffled behind the scenes because I wouldnt think hendrick would let kanus leave the organization. Maybe Kanus or Grubb will take Alan gustafson's place on the #24 team! This will be intresting to say the least.
you put knaus with jr or gordon you will have a championship contender, johnson in my mind is over rated, yeah he can drive but knaus gave him something to drive, look at jr with eury going no where now this yr with letarte very consistant
 

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They were saying the other day that maybe Knaus could move up to director of competition at Hendrick. Grubb has worked with JJ before with great success after Chad was suspended. Whatta ya think?

Thats a possibility too, but I was origionally thinkin along the line of Grubb going to Johnson and Kanus goin to Gordon and Gustafson leaving Hendrick.

How do you think Bowyer is gonna fit into MWR? I just dont think RCR will be the same without him. he was a good spokesperson for the sponsor.
 

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Thats a possibility too, but I was origionally thinkin along the line of Grubb going to Johnson and Kanus goin to Gordon and Gustafson leaving Hendrick.

How do you think Bowyer is gonna fit into MWR? I just dont think RCR will be the same without him. he was a good spokesperson for the sponsor.


Clint loved being at Childress and Richard hated to let him go. Sponsorship is everything. What I don't get is Waltrip can get sponsors but why can't Roush or Childress? I mean if you were a sponsor doling out the big 20 mill coin wouldn't you rather sponsor Matt Kenseth a perrenial contender or sponsor Martin Truex?
 

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you put knaus with jr or gordon you will have a championship contender, johnson in my mind is over rated, yeah he can drive but knaus gave him something to drive, look at jr with eury going no where now this yr with letarte very consistant

I think its all chemistry, If the driver says "its just a TICK tight in the center" the crew cheif has to know how much a "TICK" is. If the Driver and Crew Cheif cant convey information SMOOTHLY they are NOTHING!

If what your saying is correct why isnt Lagono ripping off top 5's and 10's every weekend? after all Zippy's was crew cheif for Stewart?
 

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I think its all chemistry, If the driver says "its just a TICK tight in the center" the crew cheif has to know how much a "TICK" is. If the Driver and Crew Cheif cant convey information SMOOTHLY they are NOTHING!

If what your saying is correct why isnt Lagono ripping off top 5's and 10's every weekend? after all Zippy's was crew cheif for Stewart?


You hit the nail on the head Zeebers. Chemistry, chemistry, chemistry. If I'm a JJ fan there is no way I want Chad going anywhere. Same thing happened to Matt and Robbie, Jeff and Ray, Dale Jarrett and Todd Parrott.
 

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Clint loved being at Childress and Richard hated to let him go. Sponsorship is everything. What I don't get is Waltrip can get sponsors but why can't Roush or Childress? I mean if you were a sponsor doling out the big 20 mill coin wouldn't you rather sponsor Matt Kenseth a perrenial contender or sponsor Martin Truex?

Both are good drivers but I consider Waltrip racing to be the lower of the two when it comes to quality equipment and personel. If I was doling out the money I would want the best of the best but I guess the sport needs all the owners if they are going to limit them to a 4 car limit per team.
 

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absolutly chemistry, but lagono cant drive, unless its rained out lol,
 

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absolutly chemistry, but lagono cant drive, unless its rained out lol,

Now its chemistry, but you just said to put kanus with Jr. and Jr. will win cause kanus pisses excellence every morning when he wakes up! :confused:
 

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Both are good drivers but I consider Waltrip racing to be the lower of the two when it comes to quality equipment and personel. If I was doling out the money I would want the best of the best but I guess the sport needs all the owners if they are going to limit them to a 4 car limit per team.


Problem is Roush and Childress are both 3 car teams now. If I was 5 hour energy and wanted Bowyer I would have approached Childress. Maybe Mikey gave 5 hour a better dollar deal. Who knows?
 

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Now its chemistry, but you just said to put kanus with Jr. and Jr. will win cause kanus pisses excellence every morning when he wakes up! :confused:
jr can drive, gordon can drive, johnson can drive, you put letarte with johnson hes not winning no championship
 

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Problem is Roush and Childress are both 3 car teams now. If I was 5 hour energy and wanted Bowyer I would have approached Childress. Maybe Mikey gave 5 hour a better dollar deal. Who knows?

Of couse he did! (Im going to use the term "under funded" even thought Waltrip isnt like a Tommy Baldwin Racing) being an under funded owner he can get by with less than RCR.
 

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jr can drive, gordon can drive, johnson can drive, you put letarte with johnson hes not winning no championship

There is some thought out there that Junior can't drive. He may share the same name as his daddy but he ain't no senior if you know what I mean. Everyone knows Junior is not in shape and lays down at the end of races. That is well known throughout the garage. He is a restrictor race specialist but suffers at the driving tracks.
 

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Of couse he did! (Im going to use the term "under funded" even thought Waltrip isnt like a Tommy Baldwin Racing) being an under funded owner he can get by with less than RCR.


Hence the deal. lol.
 

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jr can drive, gordon can drive, johnson can drive, you put letarte with johnson hes not winning no championship

Why wouldnt he? you just told me the reason Jr. would win with kanus is because he can drive and Lagono cant win with zippy cause he cant drive. So if jimmy can drive why wont he win with letarte as crew cheif?
 
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