Skidoomiles
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They are not a very wide tire. I found it necessary to run lower pressure and they have worn really well.
Winter specific truck tires
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skegpro
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Take new tire and measure them.
The center lugs are not full depth.
If they wear evenly the center goes bald at 50% tread depth.
If you over inflate the center would probably be bald at 75% tread left in the shoulders.
Just a ****ty tire for heavy trucks or pulling.
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So if you look at the indicator in the center aka "main groove" it indicates from new you have 4mm to burn off until the snowflake disappears and you should buy new tires. If you run them past the 8mm, yikes.
The overall tread depth starts out at 17/32", or 13.5mm.
So at 70% tread depth the tire's are done and Nokian recommends to replace them.
At 50% tread depth they are racing slicks as there is virtually no sip depth left.
Performance is great till this happens.
The overall tread depth starts out at 17/32", or 13.5mm.
So at 70% tread depth the tire's are done and Nokian recommends to replace them.
At 50% tread depth they are racing slicks as there is virtually no sip depth left.
Performance is great till this happens.
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I have run the Nokians for many years and have been pleased. My latest set is approaching 30% remaining on the tires. I pull a large enclosed and was recently in some snowy (5-6”) parking lots. Had to chain up every time. I don’t recall having issues when they were new but I honestly don’t drive in many snow covered lots and my drives to ride are typically Edmonton to Revy. I have considered a more AT type tire but given the amount of highway miles I’m concerned the performance will not be as good. Any one else who trailers have any experience they can share? Have not considered studded given the distance and weight of the trailer.
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My buddy runs the studded Duratrac, they are about the softest rubber compound you can get in a mud tire with a snowflake.
(He pulls a 30ft enclosed)
I am pretty impressed with these new mutimile artic claw tires. True m+s with the soft winter tire compound.
Plus they are half the price of Haks so you.
Have been able to pushed snow with the bumper and not had to chain up. (Quartz parking lot, not flat either lol)
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Thanks for the info. What kind of life does he get on the Duratracs? How long do the studs last with all that trailer weight? Lots of liners/haters of them on here so I’m not sure what to make of them. I don’t know anything about Artic Claw. Do them come in Load Range E? Was told Exo Grapplers but can’t find anyone that pulls a trailer with them.
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I've had both studded Hakkas and Duratracs. Now trying out a set of Firestone Winterforce's with Nails. So far very impressed. They sure don't look like much, but seem very comparable ot the Hakka's at a slightly cheaper price. Biggest downfall I can notice is how many rocks they like to pick up and spit out. I live down a grid road and they are always holding gravel even after 100km on the highway. See how they wear - only have 6000km on them this winter, but tire guy highly recommended these and I have complete confidence in him.
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I have a set of exo's on a half ton, they are hard rubber. Don't do it in winter. Great life on gravel tho.
I think Artic Claws do come in E.
Hope so cause I have a set on my 1 ton.
Go look at a set in Kal Tire.
For $1400 you can't go wrong imo.
And you can stud them.
Buddy gets good life outta his dura's but he only runs them in winter. So they last.
Stud are hanging in there too.
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takethebounce
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You can get the Exo Grappler AWT which are a different compound designed for winter use. Similar to the Toyo CT
skegpro
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Yeah I have them, they are **** in the winter. Actually down right scary.
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takethebounce
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Somehow quoted myself
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takethebounce
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I have CT’s and they are fine, junglejim has Exo’s and fine as well, same driving areas, same driving habits....almost. He has a heavier foot.
Some people say Toyo ATW II’s are awesome. I think they are the scariest thing on ice, straight summer tire for me. So everyone has a different threshold for what is good and not.
Honestly if it’s a dedicated Winter, Duracraps would be on my truck but I can’t get more than two seasons on them.
You can’t really have a deep lug winter that has great ice traction unless you have them siped. I prefer snow traction over ice traction as I don’t drive on a lot of sheer ice. Mountain passes are more snow covered. I don’t drive long stretches of bare cold highways.
skegpro
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I donno is seems to be freezing rain more than anything this year.
After driving with pure ice tires like the haks it's thought to compromise on something lesser.
But to each their own.
Just keep her outta my lane. Lol
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takethebounce
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And I haven’t seen freezing rain once lol
The Cooper ATW I would try out after seeing them on my buddies Duramax for a couple of seasons. I have always been skeptical of Cooper but he has gotten great life from them and they hold the road well.
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I had the opposite experience with the Cooper. Both ATW and M&S studded. 20,000km on both, and they were both pretty much gone. This is on a 3500 Ram with a decent load half the time.
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takethebounce
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Curious where they came from? I have read that the Canadian Tire Coopers are a different quality/durometer than say Kal tire. I have no other info other than these claims and have heard it about the Duratracs. It makes no sense though as why would a company sacrifice quality for quantity pricing and subject themselves to bad reviews.
I believe his are a 34/35” equivalent, they are decent enough I would consider them having seen first hand how they hold up and perform.
Rene G
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I really like my Hakkas, I’m on my second season. The only downside is that they’re not great in deep snow. I’m really curious about the Coopwr M+S with studs, they look like they’d clean out really good.
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I've heard the same. The ATW I got a good deal from Canadian Tire. They were LT 285/65R20 which is factory size for my truck, and equivalent to a 33". The M&S I got from Kal-Tire, and were 275/70R18 which is the other factory size, and pretty much the same 33" size.
With the ATW I had a 2500lb service body in my truck, and was pulling a heavy trailer pretty often. So an unloaded truck might have different results.
With the M&S I had my Truckboss deck with tool boxes and tool kits weighing around 1300lbs, and hauling a heavy trailer a few times a month (12 - 15,000lbs). So again, an unloaded truck will probably do better.
This winter I'm running Toyo ATII with the snowflake rating. So far so good, but we will see how they last.
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Same goes for the Canadian Tire goodyear duratrac. Not the same tire yah get at fountain tire.
When I bought the Cooper ATW it was a Canadian tire specific that being said I am very impressed with them for the cost. 3rd winter and still good. Around 40k on them. I know a few other people that have bought them after and are also happy with them!
https://youtu.be/IRI3S5yWgqs
I wouldn’t say the fuel mileage is good but not a lot different than any AT tire I have tried.
https://youtu.be/IRI3S5yWgqs
I wouldn’t say the fuel mileage is good but not a lot different than any AT tire I have tried.
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