Sled deck on 1/2 ton?

[tex78]

Ya well being a mechanic I have seen the axle bent, ect, ect, ect from overloaded half tons, and no matter what, a semi floating diff is not meant for the kind of Wright u or the manufacturer thinks


Otherwise, why is there not a 3-5-plus ton truck with a semi floating style diff??

 

[Puba]

Why does this come up every sled season? And why does someone always get offended when this 1/2 ton and Deck issue come about?

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[X-Treme]

Why does this come up every sled season? And why does someone always get offended when this 1/2 ton and Deck issue come about?

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I'm sure glad I have a 1 ton and a 4 place enclosed. Lol

 

[Puba]

Me also.

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[gdhillon]

Why does this come up every sled season? And why does someone always get offended when this 1/2 ton and Deck issue come about?

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b/c we need something to bullchit about till the snow flies haha.....thats my theory atleast

 

[tex78]

Why does this come up every sled season? And why does someone always get offended when this 1/2 ton and Deck issue come about?

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I'm not offended, just trying to say hey its a half ton with a bearing in the tube diff, don't care what christ himself posts on a door of a f150, it's still can only carry so much

Compared to a full floating diff

 

[FernieHawk]

I'm not offended, just trying to say hey its a half ton with a bearing in the tube diff, don't care what christ himself posts on a door of a f150, it's still can only carry so much

Compared to a full floating diff

Ok then, in your opinion...how much weight can the front and rear axles of a half ton carry individually?

 

[plio7]

 

[tex78]

Ok then, in your opinion...how much weight can the front and rear axles of a half ton carry individually?

Front well the ball joints tierods and knuckle are not as big as a 2500hd and up.... Only thing that is as big is the brakes


Rear well like I've said, a bearing ( which is only 1.5 to 2 inchs and mounted on the very outside on the tube) in a tube and axle rides only on a flat roller bearing can only handle so much, same as the c clip that holds that axle in the diff and too much weight with side loads trying to pull axle out

I have a half ton diff at work that's bent the tubes soooo bad from overloaded that the axles ate the spiders they ride in and diff assembly


Where a full floating diff has two bearings preloaded, riding on the hole outer nose of the diff tube for at least 6-8 inchs, with a axle that bolts to the hub assembly and free rides in the tube into the side gears

 

[FernieHawk]

Front well the ball joints tierods and knuckle are not as big as a 2500hd and up.... Only thing that is as big is the brakes


Rear well like I've said, a bearing ( which is only 1.5 to 2 inchs and mounted on the very outside on the tube) in a tube and axle rides only on a flat roller bearing can only handle so much, same as the c clip that holds that axle in the diff and too much weight with side loads trying to pull axle out

I have a half ton diff at work that's bent the tubes soooo bad from overloaded that the axles ate the spiders they ride in and diff assembly


Where a full floating diff has two bearings preloaded, riding on the hole outer nose of the diff tube for at least 6-8 inchs, with a axle that bolts to the hub assembly and free rides in the tube into the side gears

You gave a description of the differences between semi and full floating.

I wanted to know what GAWR you would assign to the front and rear axles of a typical 1/2 ton...you know, like if you were an engineer at a truck manufacturer.

 

[iceman5689]

Buy a real truck

 

[vodoo103]

Buy a real truck

Uh oh. Going to need this now.

 

[LennyR]

Buy a real truck

I agree, when you have to start wondering if the 2 extra jerry cans put you over, its pretty obvious to me you don't have the right tools for the job. And I've been in the half tons with a load , running at close to maximum rpms all day, , painful !!!

 

[neilsleder]

I'm sure glad I have a 1 ton and a 4 place enclosed. Lol

The trailer brakes better work!


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[iceman5689]

Uh oh. Going to need this now.

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Pretty sure Thats the last feeling I have pulling hills at Hwy speeds loaded with 4 sleds in 30 footer. I'm sure you'll be filling that report out once getting stopped by DOT and wrecking the start to a good weekend riding. Two place trailers can be picked up for the same price as a quality deck. Don't be a hazard to yourself or others on the road.

 

[vodoo103]

Pretty sure Thats the last feeling I have pulling hills at Hwy speeds loaded with 4 sleds in 30 footer. I'm sure you'll be filling that report out once getting stopped by DOT and wrecking the start to a good weekend riding. Two place trailers can be picked up for the same price as a quality deck. Don't be a hazard to yourself or others on the road.

Wow - Not directed at you my friend. I don't disagree with you, nor would I put 2 sleds + deck + gear on a 1/2 ton.

 

[tex78]

You gave a description of the differences between semi and full floating.

I wanted to know what GAWR you would assign to the front and rear axles of a typical 1/2 ton...you know, like if you were an engineer at a truck manufacturer.

this is from too much weight

Might not be able to see it fully from pic as it's in the metal bin, but if it's out they are bent up both sides over 2 inchs


This from experience not a engineering dough head that builds it and don't care after

 

[Puba]

Wow - Not directed at you my friend. I don't disagree with you, nor would I put 2 sleds + deck + gear on a 1/2 ton.

Everyone says you can put a deck, 2 sleds, 2 guys and all the gear you can fit plus extra gas under the deck in a half ton. Is the Internet wrong?

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[moyiesledhead]

Is the Internet wrong?

Usually.

 

[plio7]

Usually.

Can't be, I was told the Internet never lies......