Made my first trip up to Renshaw last weekend. weather was great not alot of new snow but some good riding for sure. I found it strange though that it looked like alot of people did not have any gear? Is this normal? As I sat at the cabbin and looked around at the 50 or so people it didn't look like alot of them had packs, shovels, probes or even wearing beacons. I did notice all had room for beer. (no, I do not want to start up the drinking and riding thing again) but it kind of makes you feel nervous though with the avy warnings fairily high for that area last weekend and the recent deaths. I wondered what alot of those people would do if a late day avy happend after slamming beers all day with no gear, what would they be able to do to help? I don't want to start up a big debate, but maybe we could hear from some people that don't take any gear and why? Or do they have shovels in there boots?:d