Your opinion on speed limits

[moyiesledhead]

so..........your assuming its wrong. You MAY be right that it is illegal but perhaps your friend passed unsafely in the cops perspective.

............google is your friend, look it up. I did and I proved to you what it is in Alberta

You're right....I did make an assumption....a correct one though. Bottom line is it's illegal in BC to pass on the right if you cross the white line or the edge of the pavement to do it.

Passing on the Right | DriveSmartBC


Edit: Actually, Alberta is the same if you care to keep reading after the part you "wanted" to hear. Section 23, top of page 20.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf

 

[Cat401]

Holy crap, what a mess that copy and paste turned out to be! You're right....I did make an assumption....a correct one though. Bottom line is it's illegal in BC to pass on the right if you cross the white line or the edge of the pavement to do it.

Passing on the Right | DriveSmartBC


Edit: Actually, Alberta is the same if you care to keep reading after the part you "wanted" to hear. Section 23, top of page 20.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf

I read it.....I think you are mis-interpreting it....you are complaining of people passing on the right when you are making a left hand turn...clear as day in section 22

 

[moyiesledhead]

I read it.....I think you are mis-interpreting it....you are complaining of people passing on the right when you are making a left hand turn...clear as day in section 22

And clear as day in section 23 that you can't if you have to leave the "roadway". But why the hell am I arguing about it? Don't really care about the law in Alberta. It's illegal in BC.

 

[Cat401]

You're right....I did make an assumption....a correct one though. Bottom line is it's illegal in BC to pass on the right if you cross the white line or the edge of the pavement to do it.

Passing on the Right | DriveSmartBC


Edit: Actually, Alberta is the same if you care to keep reading after the part you "wanted" to hear. Section 23, top of page 20.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf

BC law looks clear as ever too.....when the driver signals that he is turning left,it is ok to pass him on the RH side....however, if a driver has stopped behind the LH turning vehicle, then you are not allowed to pass on the right (makes sense as the 2nd car is NOT turning left)

You may pass an overtaken vehicle on the right if it is turning left, or the driver is signalling the intention to turn left. If a vehicle not turning has stopped between you and the vehicle turning left you must wait. Lack of a signal might be a clue in this instance.

 

[Cat401]

And clear as day in section 23 that you can't if you have to leave the "roadway". But why the hell am I arguing about it? Don't really care about the law in Alberta. It's illegal in BC.

focus on the section that is specifically mentioning RH turns....don't muddy the waters with the other sections.
Like any law....there are general rules and sometimes there are specific rules...the specific rules supersede the general rules..(speaking in laymans terms, sorry to the lawyer folk)

 

[moyiesledhead]

focus on the section that is specifically mentioning RH turns....don't muddy the waters with the other sections.
Like any law....there are general rules and sometimes there are specific rules...the specific rules supersede the general rules..(speaking in laymans terms, sorry to the lawyer folk)

Orrrrrr.....I could focus on the english language. This seems pretty straight forward to me:

Restrictions on overtaking and passing:

23
Notwithstanding anything in this Regulation, a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle

(a) by driving off the roadway,
(b) by driving in a parking lane, or
(c) when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely.

Here's the definition of "notwithstanding". Pretty plain that section 23 supercedes "anything in this regulation", including section 22.

Notwithstanding | Define Notwithstanding at Dictionary.com

 

[Cat401]

....maybe you need to keep reading those paragraphs over and over and over till you see it my way, then you'll know you are right........lol

over and out.........

 

[moyiesledhead]

Agree to disagree works for me.

 

[Scrambled]

Not getting into the legal wording but here on Vancouver island the pave lots of places where this occurs so it can't be that big of a deal to the law,and no the white line stays as normal.Around here people get rather upset if you dont, I personally always go around if possible and safe.

 

[freeflorider]

So they don't spray gravel all over the side of my friggin' car! That and it's about a 20ft drop into the right hand ditch where I'm turning off. I've already watched one vehicle go over that bank trying to pass me illegally on the right. Sucks to be him....made me laugh though.

Hey Ken as whoDeanie posted...looks like this guy needed a big red sticker on his plate.

 

[moyiesledhead]

Hey Ken as whoDeanie posted...looks like this guy needed a big red sticker on his plate.

I don't like to profile but....he did have big red numbers on his plate.

 

[freeflorider]

I don't like to profile but....he did have big red numbers on his plate.

Ooooooh now your going to get it on with our neighbours. Your in trouble now!

 

[moyiesledhead]

Ooooooh now your going to get it on with our neighbours. Your in trouble now!

Now would be a good time for the disclaimer that I see just as many crappy BC drivers on the highway!

 

[tex78]

Now would be a good time for the disclaimer that I see just as many crappy BC drivers on the highway!

Yes all the colors of plates

 

[arff]

I think if we would like faster speed limits we need to upgrade the quality of our roads.

QE 2 is full of humps and bumps.

Between Leduc and Glen Park road it has multiple curves and slopes. People don't realize this and loose control.

We Respond to lots of serious accidents and fatal's in that stretch.

Also Alberta needs a winter tire law. People drive with bald tires on snow and ice.

Just my opinion

 

[0neoldfart]

I don't feel speed limits should be raised for a few reasons:
1) - There are far too many people driving without the proper skill. This results in driving too fast or too slow for the road conditions (not to mention that people follow too close on the highway, and would have NO chance of stopping if the vehicle in front suddenly applied the brakes). Many drive the QEII thinking they are professional NASCAR drivers...
2) - Texting is an issue, and there are a LOT of people who do it when driving. As an avid motorcyclist, it pisses me off when I see someone looking at their lap rather then at the road.
3) - Vehicle condition. The majority of the population doesn't even realize their vehicle isn't roadworthy until they take it in for an inspection, or get into an accident
4) - Increasing the speed limit will make it much more hazardous to approach slow traffic, whether it be a grader over the crest of a hill, grandma going to the farmer's market, etc. Simple physics will state that faster speeds equate to longer stopping distances
5) - Our public roads are full of potholes, cracks, frost heaves, etc. Whether it be black ice, sand, water (hydroplaning) - these additional hazards combined with poor road surfaces will compound the likelihood of the vehicle losing control, along with poor driving habits (braking in a corner).
That said, I tend to drive a bit over the speed limit on the highway when it's safe to do so, but always leave sufficient distance between vehicles. If I get a ticket for speeding, it's my own fault, and I won't blame the RCMP, Sheriff, etc for reprimanding me.

 

[Joholio]

Most do. Happens to me every day turning off the highway to my place. Pizzes me off to no end! And I don't move over to help them break the law either! They find all kinds of interesting stuff with their tires driving on that gravel shoulder.

As far as increasing the speed limit.....NO. People can't seem to slow down to the 60km limit going through our small town now, endangering our kids trying to get to the lake for a swim. Raising the highway limit would just make this even worse. And don't get me started about the azzhat truckers that won't get off the engine brake going through town. Inconsiderate pr!cks!

Wow! I feel so much better now!

Are you turning left off the highway and taking your time doing it? Nice

 

[Joholio]

I think if we would like faster speed limits we need to upgrade the quality of our roads.

QE 2 is full of humps and bumps.

Between Leduc and Glen Park road it has multiple curves and slopes. People don't realize this and loose control.

We Respond to lots of serious accidents and fatal's in that stretch.

Also Alberta needs a winter tire law. People drive with bald tires on snow and ice.

Just my opinion

Always windy and icy at Glen park. Same as around Carstairs. Im glad thats not my route

 

[moyiesledhead]

Are you turning left off the highway and taking your time doing it? Nice

There's an assumption based on.....well, nothing really. Allow me to clarify.

I'm turning left off the highway, in a 60kmh residential area, as soon as oncoming traffic spacing permits me to turn, and I'm not hugging the center line just so some azzhat can get around me illegally on the right shoulder at the 100kmh he seems to think he has the right to drive in a 60kmh zone.

 

[ferniesnow]

There's an assumption based on.....well, nothing really. Allow me to clarify.

I'm turning left off the highway, in a 60kmh residential area, as soon as oncoming traffic spacing permits me to turn, and I'm not hugging the center line just so some azzhat can get around me illegally on the right shoulder at the 100kmh he seems to think he has the right to drive in a 60kmh zone.

You are on a roll, eh!

I bet if the RC's sat at the Pub on a regular basis for a month, you would notice a big drop in speeders. That 60 zone would net them lots of cash.........but then the RC's would have to work wouldn't they.