Apologies for the Boulder mountain incident last weekend

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good for you and i hope you pay for any damage caused. Maybe you will even learn to have some control. Not enough people take responsibility for there actions.
 

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Wasn't flamin.....never bashed any of them personally.....never said that I nor you should not accept their apology either. And, yes, it is good that they are offering restitution (now that they are caught). Most of my point was that this general attitude of not caring about others (on the hill and elsewhere) and doing whatever the fawk we feel like is slowly eroding our sport. Would you like more areas closed or more cabins damaged, more damaging news stories because a few do what they please and couldn't care less about the majority???
If we and this web site start taking a stand, showing pictures, stating names of these offenders, I think we could clean up our sport.....We need to start being proactive and I felt that exposing this group would be a good start. Let their peers (those that know them) see what azzhats they can be. I have no agenda against this group....don't even have a clue who they are....and yes, I have made many mistakes in life and some of my best/hardest lessons learned were when my family and friends found out what I have done. Its easy saying your sorry to strangers....life returns to normal real quickly but it is a bit more difficult rebuilding your reputation among those that know you. But those lessons learned made me a better person today.

Now come on, you can't argue the fact that attitudes are changing (for the worse) rather quickly. We have gone from being respectful to others to "who gives a crap". You must have read other stories were a guy speaks up to someone who is being a tard and gets told to "fawk off and mind his own business" or one story a guy pulled out a knife.....like wtf??

So, if you want to brand me as an ass....do it. I already got a handfull of pm's from the "apologiesgroup" calling me "uncaring because I will not meet with them", calling me rude and immature because I spoke up, telling me if I wasn't there, I should not be saying anything. I am just taking a stand for what I feel is right and for what I feel should be done. Nothing personal with those involved. I just feel that there should be consequences to actions. Would you rather have the media involved with a story involving drinking and sledding while drunk? You know the media is always on our side when it comes to sledding. Would you prefer Wiegle (spelling?) get a hold of this? You know he always goes to bat for us in keeping areas open because we are all so responsible.....doubt it. So don't crucify me because I think that apologising and showing remorse after being caught is a little late. Its good, but a little late. Why didn't one of these responsible adults speak up on that day?

In a long run, what was done was quite minor. No one got hurt or maimed. And no, they did not rape or murder anyone. But so what? These stunts are really hurting our sport and reputations of the rest of us sledder who enjoy going out with the family. Scrfce....at what level should we wait to speak up?

As a comparison on a side note.....Our government MLA's here in Alberta got caught collecting pay for being on commitees that never meet. Thousands of dollars were paid to many MLA's (all parties) who did nothing.....until they were caught! As soon as the news hit the airwaves, many of them refunded some of the money (some with interest added on) But, the consensus from the public is IT IS TOO LATE. Why did you give the money back only after you were caught?
I never said don't speak up HID power, absolutely nothin wrong with it, but ease up a little (you called them thugs lol, a far cry from a thug in my definition). By the sounds of things they're working out some type of agreement/solution.

I agree with the general jist of what ur putting down but i think the delivery might be a tad over dramatic. I wouldn't define it as them being caught, they were at a crowded cabin with many witnesses with some obviously taking pics. They weren't trying to commit a crime and get away with it, just acting like boneheads, so i would call it more of a clarity moment (oh ch!t we were complete jackasses) for them coming forward, admitting guilt and willing to right their wrongs,,,, i wouldn't put that in the category of " too late, your only doing it because you were caught!"....what if they hadn't come forward, what would you say to them then???

I definitely don't think its anywhere in the same realm as lying stealing politicians, not a fair comparison at all. As for the booze thing i agree, i don't drink on the hill but also don't care if some guys have a few,,,,and seriously if the media or anyone wants that footage or story all they have to do is go to ANY cabin or bowl where sledders are in the mountains and good chance they'll find it, its a pretty common sight. As for bringing Weigle and closures into this is a little bit of a reach imo.

Lastly i can argue that attitudes aren't changing for the worse, i think its quite the opposite, seems like more and more riders are becoming more aware of all the issues our sport encounters, be it littering, closures, avy conditions/training etc etc.....ch!t just yesterday i had a COMPLETE stranger (met him that morning) tow me out of foam creek yesterday down an ungroomed whooped up trail when i broke down, him and his buddies all happily lent me a hand with not one negative vibe felt whatsoever.....for those instances where you hear of the disrespect or threats i bet the good ones you don't hear of out number the bad hundred fold

thats my take
 
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well it might be a bit later than some people would have like i for one am happy that they have come forward took responsiblty and are going pay... i for one have pulled bone head moves before and had to fess up to it. so i am glad they are doing what they can after the fact but at this point that is all they can do!! only time will tell if they are really sorry for their actions or not.
 

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It takes alot of ballz to post an apology on a public forum. I think it shows alot of charactor by these people to come forward and own up to their mistakes. We have all done things we regret and I think this is taking the high road by coming forward. Instead of branding these people azzholes we should embrace their honesty and let them fix any damage they may have caused.
 

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I never said don't speak up HID power, absolutely nothin wrong with it, but ease up a little (you called them thugs lol, a far cry from a thug in my definition). By the sounds of things they're working out some type of agreement/solution.

I agree with the general jist of what ur putting down but i think the delivery might be a tad over dramatic. I wouldn't define it as them being caught, they were at a crowded cabin with many witnesses with some obviously taking pics. They weren't trying to commit a crime and get away with it, just acting like boneheads, so i would call it more of a clarity moment (oh ch!t we were complete jackasses) for them coming forward, admitting guilt and willing to right their wrongs,,,, i wouldn't put that in the category of " too late, your only doing it because you were caught!"....what if they hadn't come forward, what would you say to them then???

I definitely don't think its anywhere in the same realm as lying stealing politicians, not a fair comparison at all. As for the booze thing i agree, i don't drink on the hill but also don't care if some guys have a few,,,,and seriously if the media or anyone wants that footage or story all they have to do is go to ANY cabin or bowl where sledders are in the mountains and good chance they'll find it, its a pretty common sight. As for bringing Weigle and closures into this is a little bit of a reach imo.

Lastly i can argue that attitudes aren't changing for the worse, i think its quite the opposite, seems like more and more riders are becoming more aware of all the issues our sport encounters, be it littering, closures, avy conditions/training etc etc.....ch!t just yesterday i had a COMPLETE stranger (met him that morning) tow me out of foam creek yesterday down an ungroomed whooped up trail when i broke down, him and his buddies all happily lent me a hand with not one negative vibe felt whatsoever.....for those instances where you hear of the disrespect or threats i bet the good ones you don't hear of out number the bad hundred fold

thats my take

Yup....there are a lot of good people in the world
 

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Just an outsider point............ but they are here under an addy.........no names no claims.........so really there's no true apology..............they don't wanna come out and admit their fault apparently.......so I would see this as not meaning much................
 

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Looks like we may have lockdown. Doorknob has no respect for upstanding peeps on this site.
 

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He's sittin at his computer flexing his arms while the cheese doodles roll off his gut hahahhah key board tough guy that sounds pretty quilty. Have some respect man
 
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