They sure don't go up the hill very fast.
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maxwell
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you'd be surprised, Both machines aren't really designed for planting the skis and going up. With some suspension modification they will make great ground speed heading uphill
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They are no Sidewinder...
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QUITE the RPM difference, and it's audible(can hear the difference) between the 2 sleds. the clickers on the doo are set too low. jus sayin 
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Target rpm on the doo is 7950 and 8250 for the poo. If you watch, the poo is doing more like 8300-8400 most of the time. Many of the t-doo's are over revving too, but he doesn't usually have the gauge showing rpm's, so who knows.QUITE the RPM difference, and it's audible(can hear the difference) between the 2 sleds. the clickers on the doo are set too low. jus sayin
Just like the video, the difference is quite noticeable in person.
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Nope, they sure aren’t. Nothing compares to the arm wrenching torque of a straight piped 998 with 270 Horse tune under the hood. Absolute insanity. Lol.
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Haters will never understand or have the pleasure
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I rode my buddies T850 2weeks ago, rip around with it, pulled Video hill (Owlshead) then gave it back to him.
SOOO he said, you getting one? You like?
I said, WELL, I think you need to take it back to the dealer, cause I don't think the turbo is working, with all seriousness.
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No comparison to my 290hp apex either but hard to compare the new 2 stroke boosts to the 4 stroke.
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Longhairfreak
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I think they need to gear them up. If I remember correctly my M8 turbo is geared for 80 mph.
Mountainman52
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Freak you need a TRIPLE PIPED TRIPLE to GO Fast up those HILLS.............
Stg2Suby
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Freak you need a TRIPLE PIPED TRIPLE to GO Fast up those HILLS.............
What's the triple pipe backstory? You've been making these comments for years.
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Longhairfreak
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I think its OZONEDAVE.
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These new turbo Doo and Poo are nice sleds, I do like them and looking forward to riding the Poo version.
But when your accustom to 200+hp for all these years, these new turbos is like a guy riding an 800/850 and jumping to a 600 for a ride, it just doesn't thrill.
The Winders are just at home in the trees as they are on the hill's, unlike the previous 4stroke like the Apex. Its all in setup. JMO
As for the weight thing, its more of a misconception, yes on a showroom floor or in a shop they are WAY heavier, but compare equals in track sizing after a day in the snow that weight become much closer then what most think. Doo's become popsicles with the amount of ice they build up, Poo is not much better while Cat chassis stay relatively clean in comparo. (Winder = Cat chassis)
Comparing my buddies 175 turboG4 and my 174 Winder, we are almost 30lbs apart after spending the day in the pow. but with the Winder having a massive power advantage. I suspect he is 60-70lbs lighter in the shop dry (no snow but fueled) though. My observation's, I like the odds though, few Winders keeps things interesting out there.
But when your accustom to 200+hp for all these years, these new turbos is like a guy riding an 800/850 and jumping to a 600 for a ride, it just doesn't thrill.
The Winders are just at home in the trees as they are on the hill's, unlike the previous 4stroke like the Apex. Its all in setup. JMO
As for the weight thing, its more of a misconception, yes on a showroom floor or in a shop they are WAY heavier, but compare equals in track sizing after a day in the snow that weight become much closer then what most think. Doo's become popsicles with the amount of ice they build up, Poo is not much better while Cat chassis stay relatively clean in comparo. (Winder = Cat chassis)
Comparing my buddies 175 turboG4 and my 174 Winder, we are almost 30lbs apart after spending the day in the pow. but with the Winder having a massive power advantage. I suspect he is 60-70lbs lighter in the shop dry (no snow but fueled) though. My observation's, I like the odds though, few Winders keeps things interesting out there.
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I'd like to hear from Mountainman52. Seems kind of petty to keep trolling your posts
Well, I do respect your experience and I do love the Sidewinder but I'd be slow to call out anything for "Icing" when the dumbest thing Yamaha did was put the relays in the front of the snowmobile right where all the snow packs in and turns into a giant iceball. 200+ HP is useless when your sled doesn't start and you need to be towed out of Silent Pass......posting for a friend........LOL
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Agreed. They had 2-3yrs of glory.. then everyone got tired. Back to a 2 stroke turbo
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@06yamahaapex how much time do you spend on the winder vs the mountain max these days?
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