Summit 934
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You’re absolutely right, that’s why I don’t waste my time with a 1/2 ton. All I said was it would actually work well and for those that don’t want to buy the right equipment to begin with.
Sled deck on 1/2 ton?
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Caper11
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No, the GVWR of the truck cannot be exceeded in Canada regardless if it’s hooked up to a trailer.
Commercial pickups I’m unsure of, maybe mike many numbers knows.
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Summit 934
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You are correct you cannot exceed the GVWR and I never said it did. The unit is considered a trailer so it falls under GCWR but it takes weight off the back of the truck and puts it back on the steering. I have no doubt Mike knows and I’m pretty sure my 30 years of heavy haul experience using similar equipment (booster on a lowbed) makes me fairly knowledgeable as well…just sayin.
S.W.A.T.
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Your saying adding axels doesn't increase gvw?
Better clarify that with DOT
Better clarify that with DOT
If you add a jeep it's considered a trailer so how is this not the same?
Caper11
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I’ve Had my fair share of time of behind the wheel as well, I didn’t know you drove BTW.
That is my point, and the reason why I asked about commercial Pickup trucks, I’ve seen some pretty high GVWR on the door of a SWR f350. So does commercial get a free pass In Alberta?
I will give and example of the trucks ratings, the actual truck without a trailer, and with. How or why does GCWR matter if the truck is overweight. Notice how the weight on the front axle barely changed, this is a fifth wheel trailer BTW.
So question, how would that booster looking contraption help these numbers? Or GCWR when a truck is overweight. Am I missing something???
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Summit 934
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I’ll try and clarify this…Mike correct me if I’m wrong.
The GVWR that you see on the door sticker of your pickup ONLY includes the combined weight of the 2 axles of the truck not any kind of trailer weight. Do not confuse this with GVW weights that you see on the side of semi’s. The same tractor unit can be licensed for various weights depending on how much you want to pay for and how many axles you will be pulling. For example a GVW of 39500 is a 5 axle unit, 46500 is 6 axles, 63500 is a super B and so on. If you look on the door sticker of that Kenworth/Peterbilt it does not say those weights, it lists the manufacturers maximum weight recommendation for the truck axles only not including the trailers, same as on a pickup. So because this ridiculous 1/2 ton booster hooks into the trailer hitch it is considered a trailer, and has its own licence plate, so it’s not included in the truck GVWR. No different than pulling a single axle sled trailer.
The GVWR that you see on the door sticker of your pickup ONLY includes the combined weight of the 2 axles of the truck not any kind of trailer weight. Do not confuse this with GVW weights that you see on the side of semi’s. The same tractor unit can be licensed for various weights depending on how much you want to pay for and how many axles you will be pulling. For example a GVW of 39500 is a 5 axle unit, 46500 is 6 axles, 63500 is a super B and so on. If you look on the door sticker of that Kenworth/Peterbilt it does not say those weights, it lists the manufacturers maximum weight recommendation for the truck axles only not including the trailers, same as on a pickup. So because this ridiculous 1/2 ton booster hooks into the trailer hitch it is considered a trailer, and has its own licence plate, so it’s not included in the truck GVWR. No different than pulling a single axle sled trailer.
Summit 934
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Based on your door sticker none of those scale tickets shows you overweight because the trailer weight is not part of the door sticker GVW and your axle weights are also under the rating on the door. On your truck, and truck axles only, you can weigh a total combined weight of 10000 lbs but limited to no more than 5200 lbs on the steering and 6200 lbs on the rear. Now obviously you can’t max out on axle weights or that puts your GVW at 11400 which is 1400 lbs overweight.
Sorry I have to correct myself, in the scale ticket with the trailer yes you are overweight on the rear axle of the truck and the GVW of 10000 lbs on the truck axles only.
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Dawizman
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These two idiots hauled this all the way from Gibbons to Valemount and back
RXN
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And didn't lose a thing.
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Mike270412
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I saw a picture somewhere of a very similar unit with a bike hanging off the side of it.
Dawizman
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I have no idea what you're talking aboutI saw a picture somewhere of a very similar unit with a bike hanging off the side of it.
Dawizman
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That was in the staging area while loading back up. No alcohol was consumed in the production of this imageI saw a picture somewhere of a very similar unit with a bike hanging off the side of it.
All the back and forth about weights aside, and this is a cool idea for a niche market but.....from what I see here, you'd still have to disconnect it to unload the deck for sledding. Here's a thought though - what if you put a deck on the weight equalizer thing and parked the sleds on that?
Cmon. if you're gonna haul a "trailer / spare axle" to avoid wear and tear on your truck and be legal, why not just tow a trailer with your sleds on it?
Summit 934
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Good god people it was a joke, holy crap lighten up!
Dawizman
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GVWR is no joking matter good sir. Don't you know that you are sure to kill somebody, and your insurance company will deny a claim if you are so much as one ounce over weight
RXN
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Didn't stop us this past weekend lol
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Your truck isn't a half ton. So you don't count, lol
neilsleder
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Ok who’s going to be the first one with a deck on this bad boy!
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