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Question: How Is it not illegal search or carding, if rcmp are going around asking folks in the parking lot for id, registration and insurance?
I thought the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms prevents unlawful searches (carding) unless suspected of a crime?

How is it any different than if they came up to you in Costco parking lot in Sherwood park and demanded the same ?
 
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I think they have the right to ask for those items anywhere. If they didn't checkstops and road side stops would have been challenged long ago?
 

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Why is it such a big deal??? They can ask you for your information anytime anywhere.
 

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Yes sir they can give u tickets anywhere anytime. I look at it as trail fees.
 

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Someone planted and detonated a bomb in a fellow Sledders motor home a few years back in Brandywine parking lot. Afaik it was never solved. The victim didn’t die but the motor home was ruined. He bought another one. Sadly, he was shot and killed later on in Mexico.
I have been pulled over leaving the parking lot at the end of the day. It felt like he didn’t really care as I am older and didn’t seem drunk or stoned. He asked some bs questions and kinda blew me off.
I think if your all up to date on regi and stuff, you prolly have no problem with it.
Now if someone wants to challenge the authorities on the subject, I’m all for that also.
 

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Question: How Is it not illegal search or carding, if rcmp are going around asking folks in the parking lot for id, registration and insurance?
I thought the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms prevents unlawful searches (carding) unless suspected of a crime?

How is it any different than if they came up to you in Costco parking lot in Sherwood park and demanded the same ?


what you hiding?
 

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Personally I don't mind their presence.
If they do find a stolen truck or sled. Good on them.
If you get ticketed for no papers or being intoxicated. Thats a you problem.

I've been checked many times. And only once was I riding with no insurance or registration. So a fine I deserved. I Knew the risks and went out anyway. Lesson learned
 

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Personally I don't mind their presence.
If they do find a stolen truck or sled. Good on them.
If you get ticketed for no papers or being intoxicated. Thats a you problem.

I've been checked many times. And only once was I riding with no insurance or registration. So a fine I deserved. I Knew the risks and went out anyway. Lesson learned

I agree with the presence and rcmp running vins and plates on what they can see only. I’m all for people not stealing other peoples stuff.

I think some folks are taking my intent wrong.
My point is, if rcmp walk up to me and ask for id without committing a crime, I don’t legally have to provide nor would I. It’s my right not to
 

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I’m not a fan of this either as I don’t run plates on my sleds. Being from Sk I think it’s $ 150 ish for a plate. Most of that cost is the Sk trail fee. Why should I be forced to pay the trail fee if I’m never riding in Sk. I do have liability, fire and theft on all machines I take out to the hills.
I’m ok with running vins and checking to see if ppl should not be driving but it annoys me that I can get fined for not having a Sk trail permit in B.C.
 

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I’m not a fan of this either as I don’t run plates on my sleds. Being from Sk I think it’s $ 150 ish for a plate. Most of that cost is the Sk trail fee. Why should I be forced to pay the trail fee if I’m never riding in Sk. I do have liability, fire and theft on all machines I take out to the hills.
I’m ok with running vins and checking to see if ppl should not be driving but it annoys me that I can get fined for not having a Sk trail permit in B.C.
Is there insurance that comes with the sask plate?

Got in a t bone incident once by some sask boys on boulder who didn't believe in insurance. Or real names.
 

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Personally I don't mind their presence.
If they do find a stolen truck or sled. Good on them.
If you get ticketed for no papers or being intoxicated. Thats a you problem.

I've been checked many times. And only once was I riding with no insurance or registration. So a fine I deserved. I Knew the risks and went out anyway. Lesson learned
Keep riding my sweet trees in sicamous, you won't see a cop there lol

Or any one else for that matter lol
 
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Because I kinda like my rights and freedoms and don’t want to live in a police state nor have those rights abused or give them up

I don’t think it’s a big deal, a question is asked, a ID card is shown. No different than getting asked for ID anywhere else, but I have nothing to hide either.
In my experience, “attitude makes the difference” when talking to the RCMP.
 
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Is there insurance that comes with the sask plate?

Got in a t bone incident once by some sask boys on boulder who didn't believe in insurance. Or real names.

Skeg
I believe plates are 185 in Sask now and they only come with 200 000 of liability,
sux that some guys are a holes
 

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I’m not a fan of this either as I don’t run plates on my sleds. Being from Sk I think it’s $ 150 ish for a plate. Most of that cost is the Sk trail fee. Why should I be forced to pay the trail fee if I’m never riding in Sk. I do have liability, fire and theft on all machines I take out to the hills.
I’m ok with running vins and checking to see if ppl should not be driving but it annoys me that I can get fined for not having a Sk trail permit in B.C.
Registration is mandatory in BC. As long as you are registered in your home province that is all that's required. Don't whine about being fined for breaking the law.
 
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