Polaris 2022 Release

[snopro]

https://youtu.be/8fpxyQa_1hM

SkiDoo needs to look at how they attach their lightweight hood. No long involved process to take the hood off like we have.

 

[Caper11]

Whats it weigh? This is just the push the industry needs. This is the first true factory turbo two stroke. Polaris claims a 10% increase in HP at sea level, doo does not. Unless doo marketing is keeping quiet on the doos actual HP numbers, they may have some catching up to do.

If Polaris has a excellent first year showing like doo did, than let the games begin.

 

[skegpro]

Good tech breakdown.

https://youtu.be/8fpxyQa_1hM

 

[JMCX]

Clutch is a nice evolution. Similar to the Cat Team. Hopefully built with better quality material. Only Doos will be sporting iceburgs at the back of the tunnel now. They didn't remove enough of the cooler to prevent the running board area from icing up though. The fuel tank is only 41 litres now. That's not ideal.

 

[BIGFOOT]

26,000$ though

Jeezalou

 

[Heimie]

Pricing seems to be very close to Ski Doo. I did find 4 year warranty on the site, but could not determine if that was across all models. Cool if it is, though. Also for everyone claiming it's a flop because it was a quick release to respond to Doo, Burandt claims he's been testing for 2 seasons now. Seems like this should be ok, right? Polaris claims they've been working on this turbo for 8 or 9 years. That's promising! And I have to look at the clutch again, but also I wonder where the 3" as well as the 174" options went? That's a little disappointing.

 

[Dawizman]

Whats it weigh? This is just the push the industry needs. This is the first true factory turbo two stroke. Polaris claims a 10% increase in HP at sea level, doo does not. Unless doo marketing is keeping quiet on the doos actual HP numbers, they may have some catching up to do.

If Polaris has a excellent first year showing like doo did, than let the games begin.

Burandt says NA is 419 lbs. VOHK says 18 lbs extra for the turbo. So around 437lbs dry weight on the turbo.

 

[greenthumb]

Anyone see the warranty situation?

website says 2 years on boost models

My math could be wrong.
but I think 165 at sea level plus 10% would put you at 181.5
and I think at 6000 ft the 850 makes around 130 hp. Add 30 % to that and you get 170

Their explanation is a little cryptic:
10% more power at sea level, 50% more at 10,000.
Next paragraph says it isn't altitude compensating. Also, all claims are "Based on internal polaris testing"

https://snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-ca/snowmobile-engines/850-patriot-boost-engine/

 

[niner]

$21399 for a budget build.

 

[Dawizman]

website says 2 years on boost models



Their explanation is a little cryptic:
10% more power at sea level, 50% more at 10,000.
Next paragraph says it isn't altitude compensating. Also, all claims are "Based on internal polaris testing"

https://snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-ca/snowmobile-engines/850-patriot-boost-engine/

I suppose they are trying to say unlike BRP, it isn't strictly altitude compensating. It makes 10% more power at sea level, and 50% more at 10k. When you do the math for ~3% loss per 1k ft, the numbers are accurate. Marketing crap, but not a stretch.

 

[greenthumb]

I suppose they are trying to say unlike BRP, it isn't strictly altitude compensating. It makes 10% more power at sea level, and 50% more at 10k. When you do the math for ~3% loss per 1k ft, the numbers are accurate. Marketing crap, but not a stretch.

I would agree considering they say that it is electronically controlled.

Interesting that they used reed valves in the intake tract as compared to an electronic actuator in the doo to bypass the turbo.
The video says different pistons for the boost. 9psi on 91. I wonder if they reduced compression.

 

[maxwell]

I suppose they are trying to say unlike BRP, it isn't strictly altitude compensating. It makes 10% more power at sea level, and 50% more at 10k. When you do the math for ~3% loss per 1k ft, the numbers are accurate. Marketing crap, but not a stretch.

but you have to manually change the map on the screen?

 

[Dawizman]

but you have to manually change the map on the screen?

Only to find your buddies.

 

[Dawizman]

I would agree considering they say that it is electronically controlled.

Interesting that they used reed valves in the intake tract as compared to an electronic actuator in the doo to bypass the turbo.
The video says different pistons for the boost. 9psi on 91. I wonder if they reduced compression.

When I first heard about the Doo turbo dual intake path last year, I figured it must use some sort of reed valve. I mean why not? It's so simple. Glad to know some engineer in Polaris land thought the same thing.

 

[rightsideup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpxyQa_1hM

 

[rightsideup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WcCFtNxoSE

 

[gopherchoker]

Anyone heard what the warranty is going to be like. Dealer is offering 3year bumper to bumper on the doo turbos

 

[o zone guy]

I would agree considering they say that it is electronically controlled.

Interesting that they used reed valves in the intake tract as compared to an electronic actuator in the doo to bypass the turbo.
The video says different pistons for the boost. 9psi on 91. I wonder if they reduced compression.

i missed that part greenthumb ... makes it more interesting ..i crunch numbers .. be right back... for volumetric efficiency to perform properly ... take take 9 psi x 1.6 standard ratio on turboo set by BRP ... means there using a size 14.5 turboo .. so now take 14.5/9 = 1.61 ... now take 14.5 x 9 = 130.5 Hp .. i call bull siht all around the merry go round ... how low would compress have to be ... they sent u down a rabbiT hole ... if ya get a chance check out long hair freaks post about maxwell squealing like a pig go to #23 ozone talks about the hp numbers in more detail ... thanks .. a latte .. aloha !!!

 

[snopro]

Anyone heard what the warranty is going to be like. Dealer is offering 3year bumper to bumper on the doo turbos

Someone on another thread on this said 2 years

 

[meow8000]

ok ozone check my math:
assuming 3% hp drop per 1000 ft
assuming NA 850 is 165hp at sealevel
assuming linear boost increases from 10% at sea level to 50% at 10,000 feet:
NA HP: Boost % Boost HP:
sealevel - 165 10 181.5
1k - 160 14 182.4
2k - 155 18 182.9
3k - 150.5 22 183.61
4k - 146 26 186.88
5k - 141 30 183.3
6k - 137 34 183.58
7k - 133 38 183.54
8k - 129 42 183.18
9k - 125 46 182.5
10k - 121 50 181.5


Am i wrong?