Last seven years have been the hottest since mankind began

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Can you honestly tell me that the temperature would not have increased without man on this earth? If you look back far enough you will see that it has been hotter at times and colder at times. The fact is this earth is over-populated and this is our real problem but nobody has an acceptable answer for that. Man can try to do our best but our green initiatives will be a drop in the bucket. We better embrace for what might come as we will not change it. Anyone want to buy some ocean front property in Northern Alberta?

1 degree Celsius in 100 years is not normal. Yes temperature fluctuates, but not at this rate, change isn't the problem, the rate of change is.

Of course overpopulation is a problem, but it will take many decades to make a noticable decrease in population, reducing the demand every person imparts on the environment is the short stop solution until then.

We have to remember the industrial revolution came about because England had consumed it's forests and coal was the next fuel of choice, eventually mines got deep enough that horses or human couldn't pump out the water, along came the steam engine. Same idea here, necessity is the mother of all invention. Cost effective solutions will be found.
 

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1 degree Celsius in 100 years is not normal. Yes temperature fluctuates, but not at this rate, change isn't the problem, the rate of change is.

Of course overpopulation is a problem, but it will take many decades to make a noticable decrease in population, reducing the demand every person imparts on the environment is the short stop solution until then.

We have to remember the industrial revolution came about because England had consumed it's forests and coal was the next fuel of choice, eventually mines got deep enough that horses or human couldn't pump out the water, along came the steam engine. Same idea here, necessity is the mother of all invention. Cost effective solutions will be found.

The solution is already available. Nuclear power generation. But it doesn’t fit the green agenda of wealth transfer, so it gets ignored.
 

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The solution is already available. Nuclear power generation. But it doesn’t fit the green agenda of wealth transfer, so it gets ignored.

Very true, but its day will come.It's not a bad time to buy uranium mining stocks.... just sayin
 

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The solution is already available. Nuclear power generation. But it doesn’t fit the green agenda of wealth transfer, so it gets ignored.

Agreed, if public perception could be changed nukes would be under construction everywhere. Europe, Japan, US etc all seem to be in the process of closing their nuclear powerplants instead of building more, people hear about Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, or Fukishima and think all Nuclear is bad. Bruce Power proposed to build a nuclear plant near Peace River about 15 years ago, the project never got off the ground, local opposition cancelled the project long before it got to design phase.

Modular reactors would be the ticket, much in the same way oil and gas facilities are now largely constructed with "Alberta Sized" modules built in fabrication yards and linked together in the field. There are many costs to be saved this way, and part commonality further drives down long term development and production costs.
 

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Not in my backyard! Lol

I have the Bruce Power mug somewhere....

that power plant would be keeping that town going now with the pulp mill.
 

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It sure would have, I know there was even talk of using the waste heat from the plant to make steam for the oilsands operations in the area to cut natural gas use and decrease production costs to make the area more economic. Would have been a win-win.
 

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Yup. Supply the oil sands with clean power, drastically reduce their emissions to placate the environmental weenies, possibly use the waste heat for oil extraction, or failing that, use it to heat greenhouses and provide more local jobs and locally grown produce.
 

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Leddy lake would have been nice and warm too!

like the blue lagoon...
 

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Over the next 50 years your going to find out the real reason for warming and cooling and it will not have anything to do with CO2. And we will be going back to earths normal temperatures in a hundred years or so, and that crap we have been dumping in our oceans "will" turn to bacteria. The world has already had a similar scenario it was the largest extinction event ever recorded in earths history. We are about to learn first hand about acid and what it can do on a ocean level size. Nothing like the smell of sulfur in a well.
 

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Over the next 50 years your going to find out the real reason for warming and cooling and it will not have anything to do with CO2. And we will be going back to earths normal temperatures in a hundred years or so, and that crap we have been dumping in our oceans "will" turn to bacteria. The world has already had a similar scenario it was the largest extinction event ever recorded in earths history. We are about to learn first hand about acid and what it can do on a ocean level size. Nothing like the smell of sulfur in a well.



Ok, Ill bite. What is the "real" reason?
 

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Well i know for sure it was not our man made CO2 that has warmed our planets over the last 100 years, all the ones they have temperature measurements for that is. Not hard to figure out what the common denominator is. And they can project what that denominators temperature accuracy is over next 10 of thousands of years to 97% accuracy. Never has there been a point in our history where they have predicted earths temperature to fall starting this year. So in 5-10 years time we will know for sure who is full of sh!t and who isn't. I am betting the thieves are the ones full of sh!t
 
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And the earth has been longer not glaciated than has been glaciated, we are actually in an ice age right now believe it or not. However our current sun gods predictions are fascinating for those who care to look at them... do not expect the news to ever cover any of their findings though. To much money at stake. Here is article from Vancouver island university !! on historic past weather, if you want to know what is up with the suns Valentina Zharkova has written a few articles, some will find fascinating and scary. Others just plain will not read her stuff.

16.1: Glacial Periods in Earth’s History - Geosciences LibreTexts
 
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And the earth has been longer not glaciated than has been glaciated, we are actually in an ice age right now believe it or not.
The tail end of the fifth recorded ice age actually. The earth will continue to warm until the next extinction level event. I'm rooting for the big rock. The planet needs a reset.
 

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The tail end of the fifth recorded ice age actually. The earth will continue to warm until the next extinction level event. I'm rooting for the big rock. The planet needs a reset.

We're at the start of the 6th great extinction event, which is the first event to be caused by a single species of life on earth, instead of from geological or cosmic origins.

Signs the Earth Is Experiencing a 6th Mass Extinction
 

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We're at the start of the 6th great extinction event, which is the first event to be caused by a single species of life on earth, instead of from geological or cosmic origins.

Signs the Earth Is Experiencing a 6th Mass Extinction

Gotta love the report, along with all the “studies”…..all of which say “ probably, estimated, could, probably, might, could, potentially”, etc etc…. Good definitive properly researched science there…...
 

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Gotta love the report, along with all the “studies”…..all of which say “ probably, estimated, could, probably, might, could, potentially”, etc etc…. Good definitive properly researched science there…...

Have a spin on Google Earth then, doesn't take a PhD to see that almost every part of earth has been affected by some kind of human activity. Logic follows that when the area of a species habit declines so does its population, it also follows that if it's habitat disappears completely it's quite likely it's population goes to 0.
 

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Have a spin on Google Earth then, doesn't take a PhD to see that almost every part of earth has been affected by some kind of human activity. Logic follows that when the area of a species habit declines so does its population, it also follows that if it's habitat disappears completely it's quite likely it's population goes to 0.

We are a tenacious virus. No way we will get wiped out before we spread to other hosts.
 
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