5th wheel trailer and a 1/2 ton

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With that load on a half ton I’d be looking really close at your tires. Lots of half tons come with P rated tires. I’d be getting a good set of LT rated tires with the highest load rating you can get. The truck will do the job for you but it’s gonna be working hard and right at it’s limits.
It does have P rated and a set of E rated would be the best.

Another thought is to maybe trade up to a 3/4 or 1 ton again, but I don't want heavier payments...…

Kind of damned if I do and damned if I don't...… LOL
 

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I think that is 644 kg and not pounds , so 1400 pounds or so which makes more sense
 

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It doesn’t say if it’s pounds or kg but I would think it is kg as well.
 
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[h=2]Tongue Weight or King Pin Weight[/h]
Tongue Weight (also called Tongue Load) is the actual weight pressing down on the hitch ball by the trailer. The recommended amount of Tongue Weight is 10-15% of the GTW. King Pin Weight (also called Pin Weight) is the actual weight pressing down on the fifth wheel hitch by the trailer. The recommended amount of King Pin Weight is 15-25% of the GTW. These weights are added to the tow vehicle's GVW.
 

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If Im not mistaken Doug it said Gross vehicle weight is 10500lbs. and it has a cargo capacity of 7150ish. This makes the trailer net weight at just over 3000lbs. If you ask this sodbuster thats well within the limits of your truck just be careful how much stuff you put in it.
 

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The tongue weight should not exceed 700lbs so dont put 50 bags of cement on the bed.

Its right there on your sticker you showed. Im guessing its a smaller fifth wheel your looking at.
 
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Thanks Dean, it is a smaller trailer that I am looking at. I apprecaite the your input again :beer: :beer:
 

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Thanks Dean, it is a smaller trailer that I am looking at. I apprecaite the your input again
Any slides on the trailer trashy??

A big super slide main body ad's 1000 lbs and a bed room half slide is 500 lbs


Most of the time in the older days, wasn't so much how much the 5 wheel weight was, but the front size ( wind resistance) was the killer
 

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Since it only shows one tongue weight range it could be in kilograms?
 

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I think you would fine for short trips with out going through mountains. If your planning on doing cross country trips I’d look a smaller trailer or upgrade your truck.
 

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Since it only shows one tongue weight range it could be in kilograms?

Yes this would be correct 644kgs or 1420lbs, however this is the maximum rating for the tongue on the trailer. This is not referring to what it would actually weigh or any relation to what the truck should handle.
 

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I think you would fine for short trips with out going through mountains. If your planning on doing cross country trips I’d look a smaller trailer or upgrade your truck.

Totally disagree. The wieght rating on the sticker in this camper refers to camper weights and restrictions. They are not the total weight of what the trailer weighs but rather what they are restricted to. This trailer weighs a little over 3000lbs dry which is well with in the means of a half ton. Now the difference is what you put into the trailer. If you load it to manufactures specs it would be 10500 fully loaded and that weight should not exceed more then the 644kgs on the tongue so the weight would need to be distributed as such.
 
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So I have a 16 Silverado True North edition, with trailer package (5.3L, 3:42 gears, 6spd auto)
Factory specs are

Maxium towing capcity 11,000 lbs
Maxium payload capacity 1,770 lbs

Trailer I'm looking at, (5th wheel)

Tongue weight 644 lbs
Dry weight 7,370 lbs
GVWR 10,400 lbs

My bumper pull is
Tongue weight 590 lbs
Dry Weight 4,760 lbs
GVWR 7,400

Doable or not Doable???

What your missing here Doug is dry weight is not stated as 7370lbs. I don't agree with them but they are saying it only weighs the difference of the two 3030lbs. The weight of 7370lbs is referring to how much you can carry on board including water and dry goods. or at least thats what I get from cargo carrying capacity.
 
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What your missing here Doug is dry weight is not stated as 7370lbs. I don't agree with them but they are saying it only weighs the difference of the two 3030lbs. The weight of 7370lbs is referring to how much you can carry on board including water and dry goods. or at least thats what I get from cargo carrying capacity.

Theres no way that trailer weighs 3300lbs. A quick search of the model number on the door sticker on NADA shows a dry weight of 7370 lbs. subtract that from the listed GVW on the sticker gives you the difference of 3030 lbs which is the cargo capacity of the trailer. Not the other way around.
 

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Theres no way that trailer weighs 3300lbs. A quick search of the model number on the door sticker on NADA shows a dry weight of 7370 lbs. subtract that from the listed GVW on the sticker gives you the difference of 3030 lbs which is the cargo capacity of the trailer. Not the other way around.

The door Sticker does not show dry weight it shows cargo carrying capacity. Didn't say I agreed with it but thats what it said.
 

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The door Sticker does not show dry weight it shows cargo carrying capacity. Didn't say I agreed with it but thats what it said.
He's right, 10000 plus pounds gvw

7000 ish dry or wet weight, so 3000 lbs capacity


7000 is a big trailer for a halfer, it will do it but not like it
 

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A bit sketch but take your time, keep under 55mph and you should be good. Nothing goes wrong under 55 an old guy once told me. Crazy bugger used to drive across the country no more than 55. He never had an incident. Good luck Chuck!
 

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5th wheel pulls a lot easier, I would say empty to empty it will tow a bit easier then that bumper pull. You can load the trailer to manipulate the tongue weight as needed. A comparison I can give you between the two is behind my 3500 26,000lbs on a gooseneck with 4k pin weight tows easier then 20,000lbs with 2k pin weight bumper pull, identical trailers other then hitches, towing same machine the gooseneck just had a bunch of other stuff on. The 20,000lbs was much harder on the truck and felt much less stable.

The nice thing about a 5th wheel is depending on wheelbase it will put some of the weight on the front axle, whereas a pull bumper will take it off. It is amazing how much weight it will take off the front axle.
 

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So I have a 16 Silverado True North edition, with trailer package (5.3L, 3:42 gears, 6spd auto)
Factory specs are

Maxium towing capcity 11,000 lbs
Maxium payload capacity 1,770 lbs

Trailer I'm looking at, (5th wheel)

Tongue weight 644 lbs
Dry weight 7,370 lbs
GVWR 10,400 lbs

My bumper pull is
Tongue weight 590 lbs
Dry Weight 4,760 lbs
GVWR 7,400

Doable or not Doable???
Where do you plan to take this rig is another important question I guess...........
 
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