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    Global news, and mixed reports on golden avy!!!!!!!!

    Nope. Fatalities have gone up. THey've gone up quite a bit over the past 5 years - source is Avalanche Incidents publication -CAA. Of course, the total numbers of people going out is also up. It might be that because there are more new people in the sport; it could be that the newbs need...
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    Turbo Pass avalanche, rescuers

    that was a good article. Really disappointing to see some of the initial reactions in the thread. Instead of a victim head-in-the-sand mentality why not take the opportunity for critical self-examination of we as a community who love sledding - some people made mistakes; what can we learn from...
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    news bashing our sport... red deer advocate

    come on! Now we're fighting among ourselves. Truly we're our own worst enemy
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    Skier Avalanche Fatality - Pemberton

    For those of you who think retarded armchair quarterback comments by cubicle dwellers are only for sled accidents look at the Comments section here
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    Government regulation - Kash Heed article

    Here's a glimpse of what will likely will happen. Looks like only sleds for the backcountry affected Avalanche Safety Starts With The Individual - Opinion 250 - News for Northern and Central Interior of British Columbia, Canada In combination with increased awareness, by November 2011 we will...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    I don't want to sound like I'm lecturing but "act of god" and "accident" arguments are precisely the kind of thinking that will - get you killed - make all sledders look bad. Avalanches need the following to happen - I know I'm grossly simplifying btw 1. Terrain (read this as usually a...
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    Pemberton snowmobiler found

    FYI - a VHF radio will hit repeaters too from Top of the World Glacier. So either a sat phone or a VHF would work. Nice to have the VHF too for logging roads
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Re: There is only 1 person to blame on the Revy avalanche. It's mind-boggling that you can seriously think that. And you're not the only person who's articulated this.
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    It's entirely possible to go out in "Major" avy terrain and be safe even in hair-trigger terrain. For example, I had to go out in that storm and collect data. I knew the winds were coming in SW. I had to get to a representative slope at about 2000m to get to the station for data. We've put a...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    The CAC doesn't issue a lot of EXTREME ratings yup. Here's the danger scale Avalanche Danger Scale : Bulletins : Canadian Avalanche Centre : avalanche.ca In a profile I had in a test pit on a NE slope I found FIVE distinct weak layers. All of them were weak (clean shears if you want to be...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    You can check the CAA site for the exact stats but here's my recollection of the spread for the Selkirks. this is for the alpine/subalpine and for all days - not just weekends Low - about 30% of time Moderate - about 35% of time Considerable - about 25% of time High - about 15% of time Extreme...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Again. It's irrelevant. Why are you guys bringing the STS incident into this? Yes the teachers who brought the kids to Connaught Creek make a mistake. No they didn't deserve to die. But they still died. The point is to LEARN from the mistake - not make the same mistake again and again...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    I didn't want to get into too much detail on this because I just don't want see the relevance of you bringing this up. 1. They weren't professionally guided. They were with their teachers. Having said that having a guide doesn't give you a magic avalanche force-field detector so I don't know...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    I was really sorry to hear he was there. I was really sorry to hear that another avalanche instructor was also there. They should have known better. They made a mistake (the fact that they were there and involved in an avalanche in itself, means a mistake was made). If you think otherwise...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    x3. ... and what RedMtnRiders said. The time to ask these tough questions is NOW when its fresh in the mind.
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    The conditions that day were rated considerable. The path that slid naturally that day was the ONLY path that slid that day and it came from the opposite side of the valley. This was an accident.
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Charges possible. RCMP throws this out almost as a matter of course and media reports it because it satisfies the lynch mob mentality. Crown still has to approve those charges and good luck getting "beyond a reasonable doubt" to stick. So yeah, its just an opinion but I can't imagine much...
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Useful thread from Snowest -100 Things We Can Do To Be Safe. 100 Things We Can Do To Be Safe. - SnoWest Forum
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Reposted from snowest because it mirrors my thoughts Revy avalanche - Page 12 - SnoWest Forum
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    FALLOUT: Avalanche-Turbo March 13,2010

    Just thought I should clarify my comment about the kids. I didn't want to imply that kids should never go sledding or be in the backcountry. All I wanted to say is that that little guy probably (I'm guessing here) didn't have a choice - unlike us adults who have choices and make our own...
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