snopro
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I'm thinking if you buy a 450 there will be no need for trailer brakes?
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catalac
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i think you are comparing a gas 350 to diesel 450
Dragonalain
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That’s it 100%
probably can’t get a gas engine in a 450 and that’s what the list price is on the 350....
Lunch_Box
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The F450 capacity and ratings are all on par with the Ram 3500 DRW. Whats makes the F450 a dedicated work truck? The F550 and F650 seem like the dedicated commercial use vehicles.
Cableguy
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dont know that company but I know really hard to find drivers
My bnl has 2 trucks in clearwater and my boy has made some trips for him on his days off from his other truck driving job
drivers get 30% which I think is pretty standard for log hauling but is not for the faint of heart
My bnl has 2 trucks in clearwater and my boy has made some trips for him on his days off from his other truck driving job
drivers get 30% which I think is pretty standard for log hauling but is not for the faint of heart
Caper11
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Sorry man, your building the truck wrong.
That F350 your seeing guaranteed it has a gas engine in it. No way a 350 platty is that cheap with a diesel in it.
If a guy wants a f-450 than whats the big deal? He mentioned everything I like about the 450 over the 350. Turning radius alone is worth it.
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snopro
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I think you usually see the diesel option is worth about $10000 so he may not realize he is pricing a gas versus diesel truck ?
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Bahahahaha......I guess you ain’t getting no truck for at least 5 years! Bahahahaha. Don’t hold your breath, you could die! Bahahahaha
flying frenchman
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I guess I'll wait. Nothing wrong with my old truck.
Won't hold my breath or wear a mask too!!
When these new trucks break down there won't be any parts available.
Plus I'd buy what I want.
Won't hold my breath or wear a mask too!!
When these new trucks break down there won't be any parts available.
Plus I'd buy what I want.
Speaking just for Ram, the 3500 capacities are based on only doing so I believe it's 30%, whereas the 4500/5500 are rated to tow/haul that amount 100% of the time, basically what Ram is saying is, tow 100% of that rating with the 3500 and it will have a much shorter life, whereas the 4500/5500 won't be affected. That is why the 3500 has a higher tow rating then the 5500, when the 5500 will actually pull a ton more and has much lower gears. I've had both, the 5500 pulls a million times better. The 4500/5500 are HP derated to last longer, different diffs, axles, driveshafts, transmission, etc etc. Have a look at them, everything is way heavier then a 3500. I've put 9000lbs on the deck of my 5500 and it doesn't even phase it, just starts to ride nice, and that's sitting at about 20,000lbs total.
The F450 with a box might just be a bit heavier F350 and not really like the C+C are, not sure.
Lunch_Box
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The F450 is nothing like the Ram 4500/5500, the Ford comparison there would be the F550/650. The F450 doesn't have the detuned engine you find in the cab and chassis models, its built on the same frame as the F350 but has some advantages. Bigger brakes, better turning, and yes I know it shouldn't matter for my lifted grocery getter but it looks better too.
Mike270412
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So anyone figured out what the fake fuel shortage is all about? Other than to drive the price through the roof and gouge the already struggling consumer?
ABMax24
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You mean that major gasoline pipeline (Colonial Pipeline) that runs up the east coast of the US from Texas, who's computers got hacked by someone in Russia and they succeeded in shutting it down for 5 days?
Doesn't affect us last I heard, might be a lesson for some on the east coast though as to the importance of pipelines.
catalac
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seems we don’t need “unscheduled maintenance” to crank summer fuel prices when we can blame covid.
Like I said I can only speak for Ram as I don't know Fords, but the F450 is the same as the Ram 4500, or at least it always has been in the cab and chassis version.
No idea but not happy about paying 50% more for diesel then last year. Was like $1.16 last delivery for clear. And rates haven't went up at all so it's just eating away at profit.
ABMax24
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You're right, the cab and chassis versions of the F450/F550 and Ram 4500/5500 are comparable spec wise. The F450 with a truck box is not the same as a C/C F450. It really should be called an F350HD, because it is not even close to the F450 C/C in GVW or payload specs.
Mike270412
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Those pipelines don't pump to gas stations. They pump to tank farms that hold almost a month's supply of fuel.
ABMax24
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Not sure what to tell you, hundreds of stations on the eastern seaboard are sold out of fuel. Maybe it's from people hoarding fuel, filling up gas cans and plastic bags with more fuel than they would typically use?
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