Sidewinder 174 build and season ride report

Turblue · Mar 16, 2018

So out for a ride today with my son. Got to ride with the QS3 shock...the shock said max 200psi and I had a tad over 150psi. It seemed very soft. I bottomed out a bit..tried it at 1 and 2 settings. So I’m guessing I’m going to need more pressure. Never got to try the lockout on a climb.

Beauty day though.

Lund · Mar 16, 2018

I was out in McBride last weekend and went to Renshaw. Did many pull's, some fairly vertical and i'am finding very little non controllable wheelies happening, i'm quite satisfied. So i won't be changing any rear shock as of yet. Will continue and see what happens as the snow hardens to spring condition.
This is with the stiffer center spring, i expected more aggressive wheelies but instead it doesn't unless you want it too. It's a good feature to have in pulling a tight hook on a climb but only if it is controllable and in this case it appears to be.

BTW awesome pictures.

tmo1620 · Mar 17, 2018

Turblue said:
So out for a ride today with my son. Got to ride with the QS3 shock...the shock said max 200psi and I had a tad over 150psi. It seemed very soft. I bottomed out a bit..tried it at 1 and 2 settings. So I’m guessing I’m going to need more pressure. Never got to try the lockout on a climb.

Beauty day though.
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Ya i found 150 way soft as well, bottomed out to much, im up to 165 psi on the rear qs3 and its way better now, and the lockout works way better as well with that higher pressure, im about 190 lb without gear on

skegpro · Mar 17, 2018

I am running 165 psi in the qsL.
Weigh about a buck sixty.

I'd think you bigger guys could benefit from running closer to 200 psi. If it knocks your teeth loose on the trail in clicker 1 then dial it back.

Run clicker 1 on the trail.

Alpine
Clicker 1 is party/wheelie mode.

Clicker 2 is climb mode while dealing with big ruts or really rough conditions.

Clicker 3 is business mode, you basically have a coupled skid now. Change front skid shock at this point to clicker #1 and it will get up on the snow even better.

I honestly don't know why a guy would run a kiss coupler over one of these qsL shocks.

Turblue · Mar 17, 2018

Pumping it up to 200 today. I’m 230 plus gear, and cargo so 260-70 guessing. What do the come from factory with? The one in the show room in fernie here is stiff.

skegpro · Mar 17, 2018

No 100 sure but my mountain cat came with.

85 psi fronts: to stiff
35 psi center : not enough
150 psi rear : not enough

My buddies Sidewinder is running.

60 psi front
Spring at 50 percent in the center.
And 150 psi in the rear.
(The rear shock needs an upgrade as he is running Evo stage 4)

My mountain cat:

Front: 55psi (have to run 2 or 3 on trail, 1 in pow)
Center: 60psi (have to run 2 or 3 on trail, 1 in pow)
Rear: 165 psi (1 on trail, 2 or 3 in pow.)

Keep trying to get my buddy to buy these.
Steal of a deal at $1000 CAD

Lunch_Box · Mar 17, 2018

skegpro said:
No 100 sure but my mountain cat came with.

85 psi fronts: to stiff
35 psi center : not enough
150 psi rear : not enough

My buddies Sidewinder is running.

60 psi front
Spring at 50 percent in the center.
And 150 psi in the rear.
(The rear shock needs an upgrade as he is running Evo stage 4)

My mountain cat:

Front: 55psi (have to run 2 or 3 on trail, 1 in pow)
Center: 60psi (have to run 2 or 3 on trail, 1 in pow)
Rear: 165 psi (1 on trail, 2 or 3 in pow.)

Keep trying to get my buddy to buy these.
Steal of a deal at $1000 CAD

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I was looking at those, the front skid shock has some abuse thats for sure. But the others look great.

I got a good deal on a Racers Edge read skid so I have that in there right now as it was cheaper then going with a new QS3.

skegpro · Mar 17, 2018

Lunch_Box said:
I was looking at those, the front skid shock has some abuse thats for sure. But the others look great.

I got a good deal on a Racers Edge read skid so I have that in there right now as it was cheaper then going with a new QS3.

Really?
The QSL is $650 CAD list.

That rear Baker arm and raptor shock is what $2500 new?

Lunch_Box · Mar 17, 2018

Any more back to back comparisons between the factory Yamaha and Polaris Gripper skis?

Lunch_Box · Mar 17, 2018

skegpro said:
Really?
The QSL is $650 CAD list.

That rear Baker arm and raptor shock is what $2500 new?

Traded the rear shock setup with cash for the Baker setup, but was cheaper then the QS3.

Lund · Mar 17, 2018

Lunch_Box said:
Any more back to back comparisons between the factory Yamaha and Polaris Gripper skis?

I have not tried the Grippers and i was disappointed with the Yamaha ski's... BUT... after playing with the rear skid setup for the last little bit i'm honestly starting to like the Yamaha ski's. I guess at first i wasn't giving them credit as my skid setup was far in left field but now i don't know if i'm going to switch out. hhhmmm
The freckin sled side hills like a goat, literally glues it self with ZERO was out and up hill turn out a super easy. At first that wasn't the case and last ride i expected some control lost but it never happened and the sled is very predictable and controllable in most all situation's i put it in. Now i'm finding my self more relaxed as the unexpected isn't happening, so hardly working a sweat riding.

skegpro · Mar 17, 2018

Lunch_Box said:
Traded the read shock setup with cash for the Baker setup, but was cheaper then the QS3.

Good deal.

Lunch_Box · Mar 17, 2018

Lund said:
I have not tried the Grippers and i was disappointed with the Yamaha ski's... BUT... after playing with the rear skid setup for the last little bit i'm honestly starting to like the Yamaha ski's. I guess at first i wasn't giving them credit as my skid setup was far in left field but now i don't know if i'm going to switch out. hhhmmm
The freckin sled side hills like a goat, literally glues it self with ZERO was out and up hill turn out a super easy. At first that wasn't the case and last ride i expected some control lost but it never happened and the sled is very predictable and controllable in most all situation's i put it in. Now i'm finding my self more relaxed as the unexpected isn't happening, so hardly working a sweat riding.

I got a set of used Grippers for a good price so was going to give them a go next trip. But I think im in the same boat as you with the front spring being to soft. Im about 230 geared up so might have to look into a stiffer spring or swap it out for a Raptor shock.

HotShotHarry · Mar 17, 2018

Lund said:
I was out in McBride last weekend and went to Renshaw. Did many pull's, some fairly vertical and i'am finding very little non controllable wheelies happening, i'm quite satisfied. So i won't be changing any rear shock as of yet. Will continue and see what happens as the snow hardens to spring condition.
This is with the stiffer center spring, i expected more aggressive wheelies but instead it doesn't unless you want it too. It's a good feature to have in pulling a tight hook on a climb but only if it is controllable and in this case it appears to be.

BTW awesome pictures.

Cant wheelie cause not enough power...... Seen it myself.... from right behind the handlebars...... LOL!

Lund · Mar 17, 2018

HotShotHarry said:
Cant wheelie cause not enough power...... Seen it myself.... from right behind the handlebars...... LOL!

Hehehe, did you have fun?

HotShotHarry · Mar 17, 2018

Oh YA!!!! Nice area isn't it?

Lund · Mar 17, 2018

HotShotHarry said:
Oh YA!!!!

haha
You need to move to the darkside and join the big boys club now.

skegpro · Mar 17, 2018

HotShotHarry said:
Cant wheelie cause not enough power...... Seen it myself.... from right behind the handlebars...... LOL!

Were you sitting infront of Lund as he doubled you?

HotShotHarry · Mar 17, 2018

Ha ha ha......... No!

Lund · Mar 17, 2018

skegpro said:
Were you sitting infront of Lund as he doubled you?

LMAO....hahaha

You mean like "Broke back" LOL

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