Project save Phazer 2

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
I have wanted to own one of these since I was a kid. I am too stubborn and cheap to just go and buy one that is in nice shape. One of my friends had an incident with a frozen throttle cable or iced up carbs and his 96 Phazer 2 Mountain Lite hit a tree in his yard wide open. I will have to get some pics from before some parts where pulled to check the frame but this is what happened. It was in very nice condition before the tree magnet was turned on.
7113690d18f2ea0369f2d352fd39670e.jpg
a85d6ddac44e3736d503fe45b65d2e79.jpg
b057165ac21e4640b9aa63686ae9bd02.jpg
38378014a7409ddc9c2ccd18de7419f3.jpg
9a5e450516ac55d1160c19272a7d808e.jpg

I went to Benalto to check out the damage for him and long story shortened I bought it from him for $600. First offered to find the parts to repair it and would have worked on it for him in exchange for giving my girls skating lessons. Something that was natural to me is sure difficult to teach I find.
Anyway I found a straight frame and bought it from Dusty Dancer who runs Snowmobile Recyclers in Dewinton (all around good **** his card even says so). Then used the Snow and Mud courier service and had Trashy pick it up for me and brought it to Red Deer which cost me some Bud light but I didn't have to spend an evening driving to and from Calgary. Thanks Trashy.
 
Last edited:

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
b53c606fe339fc09f7ba5bef053451ee.jpg
bb0d2a4138305764227e29d04dfec07f.jpg
3168369e2538c001f3013fcf3adf23cb.jpg

f10fd8f2137ffe3cd76130a1508c35fe.jpg

Before getting the straight frame from Dusty I bought two basket case Phazers from Calmar they are in the background. I wasn't sure how many spare parts I would need and this package came with another motor. So far all I have needed was a hood, nose cone, speedo cable, y pipe and tuned pipe and skis from this pile of scrap. And misc bolts that were misplaced. Both of those machines would have need frame or tunnel work to be used again.
 
Last edited:

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
6b844b9fcc9c13cac16516964b9b2d57.jpg
e4e8325ad64fc74cbed5ca4469a7b93e.jpg
8f654bcb43d5e75f9e2e1d3072bd9b5a.jpg
6b9f871b33a8e53abf10f2802d2b799f.jpg
a62a765728c5fb725dc48b0cbcc5a4f4.jpg

The motor runs great still. I think the pipe was squished shut and killed the motor before anything contacted the clutch and that was only plastic. Some run time will confirm that I guess. I spent a fair bit of time cleaning up all the grime that collects in a sled chassis over 27 years. Replacement frame is a 1991.
 
Last edited:

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
b6a681afe5ba26cec5035e9b067e8063.jpg

Most of the hours I have spent working on this are between 4am and 7 am so when I have to clean up to do my actual job I just pile everything up.
 
Last edited:

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
fefe7c0a785cce69aed016d4c75b4d4b.jpg
57a3533ee0fd803c65ea35efed9fa6b2.jpg

The owner before my friend had installed a Polaris track and beat the front of the tunnel enough to have lug clearance barely. I didn't want to do that to the replacement so I had the Machinist we use at work turn down the drivers. They are now just over 6 inch diameter and the track barely fits I may have to knock the tunnel back a bit to clear the Center lugs. May have to change up the gearing after I test ride it.
 
Last edited:

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
Kids are awake so I can head to the shop and they can help remove some decals. From the mismatched panels.
 

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
I was able to get it assembled enough to take it for a test run last night with my oldest Daughter. I need I find better skis for it the ones I install from the parts donors don't get on top of fluffy snow. At least not at the speeds we were going in the dark.
1b3370e459d42b8663727f026cf87713.jpg
ef72c349274728f3bf34e808d4a7ce72.jpg
6df6dd22a83536e7198f693cba60f4dc.jpg
0fe43dd20c44dd0cb2a541bcf305ffb3.jpg
22d88d931df4f33c9960ad1895476fdc.jpg
cb3333f694b4a20c512bd047e69f996d.jpg
eecbc88cd8f47e83f22d25b08b2b0565.jpg
3c356d77c3b373f4e98c9ae7ec3c782c.jpg

I still have the skid plate to reinstall and need to find skis that work better. Some lighting issues and speedo and tach cables.
 
Last edited:

niner

Active VIP Member
Joined
Mar 14, 2009
Messages
7,992
Reaction score
56,985
Location
lacombe
Phasers are awesome. Was my first sled as a mountain rider. Went down turbo hill in Revy many times on mine.
 

Lund

Active VIP Member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Messages
4,243
Reaction score
11,242
Location
Vernon/Kelowna
I had one of them in the early day's, an 1984 first year model and an 86 model, they were an awesome mountain sled. I had converted mine to a 136" using a Yamaha Enticer trapper rails and track and plastic paddles.
The Phazers were known for frozen throttles, be very careful if kids are riding these sleds. Tether is a must on these. They did use TORS but many didn't work.
If kids are using the sled its best to avoid deep snow in cold temps IMO.
Why they have this frozen throttle issue is because of the fan cooling and venting system. We would duct tape over 50% of the hood ducting on cold day's and nearly all of it in deep powder days when it was cold.
They are a great sled but also a dangerous sled in the right condition's, i have personally experience frozen throttle on Phazer many many times, to the point you knew by the feel of the flipper things were starting to stick.
Not trying to poopoo this just giving heads up, especially for kids.
 

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
I had one of them in the early day's, an 1984 first year model and an 86 model, they were an awesome mountain sled. I had converted mine to a 136" using a Yamaha Enticer trapper rails and track and plastic paddles.
The Phazers were known for frozen throttles, be very careful if kids are riding these sleds. Tether is a must on these. They did use TORS but many didn't work.
If kids are using the sled its best to avoid deep snow in cold temps IMO.
Why they have this frozen throttle issue is because of the fan cooling and venting system. We would duct tape over 50% of the hood ducting on cold day's and nearly all of it in deep powder days when it was cold.
They are a great sled but also a dangerous sled in the right condition's, i have personally experience frozen throttle on Phazer many many times, to the point you knew by the feel of the flipper things were starting to stick.
Not trying to poopoo this just giving heads up, especially for kids.

Frozen throttle is what happened to this machine when I bought it smashed. I can see how that can be an issue. The carb switch was disconnected when I got it. I have that hooked up again and will be adding a tether this week. With these temp skis on it you come off it looking like a snow man.
974c17e78364aadea72d7710a7f75f8d.jpg
 

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
I bought a used set of Gripper skis that I am going Install this week. Hopefully the snow doesn't melt too fast.
 

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
Gripper skis installed. I may need to tweak the ski saddle some more still. The spindle part of the TSS suspension is much longer than polaris spindles. We are under a snowfall warning so if the snow gods cooperate I might even get it out to test on Saturday.
72662a33a8a83bb82727abaead52e7c2.jpg
b2b1bf7ebb1093c6e3ddbadaca06407c.jpg

c71fef3c7c52cd74e9f51f8e63beb099.jpg

I also need to align the skis and take some slop out of the steering.
 

CatMan16

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
1,832
Location
Red Deer
Seen a guy and his kid on medicine lake, his kid was driving this same sled. You could see his smile sticking out of his helmet. I thought about this thread.

I have tried to get buddies out to go sledding with me many times this year. All guys that use to ride that sold their sleds for various reasons. No takers not even once and I was providing the sled, oil and gas. My most reliable ridding buddy and easiest person to arrange sledding with is my 12 year old daughter. All I have to say is we are going sledding and it happens. Having a reliable machine that I don't have to work on before we ride was a priority for me this year.
 

d mills

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2009
Messages
3,275
Reaction score
4,982
Location
camrose
I have tried to get buddies out to go sledding with me many times this year. All guys that use to ride that sold their sleds for various reasons. No takers not even once and I was providing the sled, oil and gas. My most reliable ridding buddy and easiest person to arrange sledding with is my 12 year old daughter. All I have to say is we are going sledding and it happens. Having a reliable machine that I don't have to work on before we ride was a priority for me this year.

You’ll provide the sled,oil and gas for me from now on? Sweet! Lol
 
Top Bottom