Snow tires in BC.

Cyle · Nov 16, 2009

DaveB said:
Mud tires are fine for loose snow, but are worse than summer tires on ice. Real winter tires have tons of siping that really helps grab on the ice. I switch to studded Cooper winter tires every year and will never go back to mud tires in the winter.

They are as good as any all terrain on ice, but yea a winter tire JUST for ice is better. But for a tire that you run all year round, it is great. Run mud terrains year round for the last few years never any issue. Any sledding parking lot the mud terrains are king, had to pull out a few people who wonder why their snow tires ain't helping when they are buried to the diff :d

Even on a packed snow road they do very good, but you have to pick the mud terrain carefully, toyo mt's are a perfect example and are terrible on snow.

ST1 · Nov 16, 2009

Just thought I'd chime in and let everyone know about the Dunlop Rover M/T Maxx Traction...it's the only M/T tire that I know of that has the "snowflake" rating.

We currently have stock in some size, but quantities are limited. I expect this tire to be a hot-seller with our diesel truck clientele.

See weblink for more info and picture below:

Cyle · Nov 16, 2009

Never even looked at those, my buddy just picked up a set actually. To bad they only make a max 37x13.50 though, they seem to be priced well but that's just to small for me

DaveB · Nov 16, 2009

Cyle said:
They are as good as any all terrain on ice, but yea a winter tire JUST for ice is better. But for a tire that you run all year round, it is great. Run mud terrains year round for the last few years never any issue. Any sledding parking lot the mud terrains are king, had to pull out a few people who wonder why their snow tires ain't helping when they are buried to the diff :d

Even on a packed snow road they do very good, but you have to pick the mud terrain carefully, toyo mt's are a perfect example and are terrible on snow.

Good points for sure. The deep stuff definitely slows down my rig....but I drive a little girl truck...hahaha. It's that trip in the middle of the night over the Roger's Pass that concerns me the most.

jbb · Nov 16, 2009

st1 said:
just thought i'd chime in and let everyone know about the dunlop rover m/t maxx traction...it's the only m/t tire that i know of that has the "snowflake" rating.

We currently have stock in some size, but quantities are limited. I expect this tire to be a hot-seller with our diesel truck clientele.

See weblink for more info and picture below:

goodyear dura trac and the general at2 both have the emblem. But neither will match a true winter tire for traction or stopping power.

JaySimon · Nov 17, 2009

Do yourself, and everyone else on the road a favour and buy some snow tires. If you are driving across a pass at midnight and it's howling, you will appreciate the extra grip, as will motorists driving the other direction.

Lets put it this way, if your track had only half it's lugs, you would replace it, no? Get some winters mounted on some steel rims, swap em out for winter, double the life of each set of tires, and be safe.

You're going to the mountains, it isn't a fashion show.

DRD · Dec 10, 2009

ST1 said:
Just thought I'd chime in and let everyone know about the Dunlop Rover M/T Maxx Traction...it's the only M/T tire that I know of that has the "snowflake" rating.

We currently have stock in some size, but quantities are limited. I expect this tire to be a hot-seller with our diesel truck clientele.

See weblink for more info and picture below:

Any feedback on these yet? Seems like a good tire for the variety of conditions we get in Ab.

Apextenn · Dec 10, 2009

So then from my understanding any tire with the snowflake symbol on it will be okey as the bf goodrich A/T have it i know they arnt a true winter tire but they would pass right???

canadian madman · Dec 10, 2009

DRD said:
Any feedback on these yet? Seems like a good tire for the variety of conditions we get in Ab.

Hey DRD, I ordered these for my Ram 3500 4x4 about 2 weeks ago...should be in this week or next...heading to Revy from Edmonton just before christmas to give them a good test (will be pulling my enclosed 4 place)...i will report back on how they do

just a note - talking to the tire shop (cal at fasttech) they said that if i run them year round then i would prob only get about 40K out of them because they are softer....suggested running winter and summer tires if i could afford it....so i will be running 2 sets

Ryano · Dec 10, 2009

This year I put on snow tires and I can say that I have not noticed a difference between them and the BF goodyears that I normally run

Cyle · Dec 10, 2009

DRD said:
Any feedback on these yet? Seems like a good tire for the variety of conditions we get in Ab.

My buddy has them on his Dodge 2500, drove to Mcbride last weekend on them. They seem to do pretty good, he was really happy with them compared to the trxus mt. They are pretty cheap to.

growly · Dec 12, 2009

Apextenn said:
So then from my understanding any tire with the snowflake symbol on it will be okey as the bf goodrich A/T have it i know they arnt a true winter tire but they would pass right???

mountainbigbull · Dec 24, 2009

I thought every snowmobiler carried chains. Well I know thats not true but it seems like a very good idea just in case. Never had to chain up for hwy driving though it has crossed my mind a time or two.

With the buzz in winter tires going on here down at city hall in Calgary, and sounds like in BC too. Winter tires do make sense. Just hard to swallow the $1000 to $1500+ for a set of winters on a descend set of rims. Then a set for the wife because that would only be fair right? So now a household with two vehicle's would have 20 tires on hand! 8 each and 2 spares and three for the 2 place trailer! plus whatever else you own!

Is the direction we are heading?

JaySimon · Dec 24, 2009

mountainbigbull said:
Is the direction we are heading?

Seems to be the case, yea.

kimwin · Dec 24, 2009

yeah i really want mud tires on my truck in the winter LOL, i run two sets for the last 4 yrs......some peoples kids...i must be stupid....i have to quit going on hear and reading some of these posts people make it just makes me crazy, ah feel better now. no i dont i will go away quietly now............ merry xmas everyone.

powder junkie · Dec 24, 2009

its a tough decision wat to do......i beleive that snow tires help u stop better but a M/T is a better traction tire. was leaving mcbride late nov after a trip (sun nite) with 2-4 iches of snow on the road and cars and normal pickups were just gettn tossed around by the snow and runts. me with M/T's in 2 wheel drive just kept it steady and zero issues. and if a guy has a four place that goes twice a year to the hills, 2 grand for tires and 30 per tire twice a year to swap, is a tough pill to swallow. do the trailers require snow tires too? how many sets of chains do they want u to carry, just two for the drive tires? id be buyn chains bf i put snow tires.

jeffso · Dec 25, 2009

Apextenn said:
So then from my understanding any tire with the snowflake symbol on it will be okey as the bf goodrich A/T have it i know they arnt a true winter tire but they would pass right???

YES as long as it has the snow flake they are fine there is winter tires and all weather tires that have the snow flake i have a set of open country all weather with the snow flake

canadian madman · Jan 6, 2010

Just put 35" Dunlop Maxx Tractions on before christmas...was a little skeptical how they would handle on ice after seeing the tread pattern in person, but they actually did pretty good. Way better on ice than the Dick Cepeks i had on there before. Fairly quiet ride for an aggressive lug. They are not as good on ice as the Blizzaks i have on the car, but still respectable. Others were spinning when i wasn't - even in 2wd without any weight in the back. Seems to be a pretty good balance between grip on the ice and in deep snow.

My only concern was that when pulling the trailer there seemed to be a little sway due to a softer sidewall on a larger tire - but this could have been due to my equalizer bars not being as tight as i usually have them (haulmark has a dumb set up and it was cold and we were lazy

)

It's early to tell for sure, but I will probably buy these again.

FSS · Oct 17, 2010

Apextenn said:
So then from my understanding any tire with the snowflake symbol on it will be okey as the bf goodrich A/T have it i know they arnt a true winter tire but they would pass right???

The snowflake symbol is not required and is not law in B.C. After lots of digging I found this definition from the B.C. Motor Vehicle Act: 208 (1)

208 (1) For the purpose of this section, "winter tire" means a tire that is

(a) advertised or represented by its manufacturer or a person in the business of selling tires to be a tire intended principally for winter use, and that provides, or is designed to provide, adequate traction in snow or mud; and

(b) in the condition respecting tread wear and other particulars the regulations prescribe. Check out the link:

(2) The minister responsible for the administration of the Transportation Act may, by public notice or by placing signs, prohibit vehicles from being driven or operated on a highway that are not equipped with chains, winter tires or sanding devices, or a combination of these the minister considers adequate and necessary in view of prevailing road conditions.

(3) For the purposes of a prosecution under this section, the onus is on the defendant to prove that a tire alleged not to be a winter tire is in fact a winter tire.

Also, from the RCMP Traffic Services B.C. They seem to push the snowflake but refer to "At Law" in B.C., which refers to the above definition.

Thinking About Winter Tires???

One more link. This is pretty clear:
http://www.kelowna.com/2009/12/15/cops-clarify-the-definition-of-snow-tire/

FSS · Nov 5, 2010

I see the B.C. RCMP Traffic Services has done an about-face on the use of All Season M+S tires since my prior post:

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