Holiday trailer tires?

overkill19 · Jul 18, 2020

Well I’ve got lucky making 4 trips to Kelowna and back on my Factory trailer tires! Had a couple guys tell me I’m flirting with disaster!

Any brands to avoid?
What’s everyone buy?
I run a tpms to be safe but it’s probably time! It’s interesting to watch the pressure increase about 10psi and temp about 15-20c

doorfx · Jul 18, 2020

My first trailer set lasted for 10 years lol

Caper11 · Jul 18, 2020

Goodyear trailer tires with a good alignment.

ABMax24 · Jul 18, 2020

Anything not made in China.

Maxxis trailer tires are made in the USA, Good-Year Endurance are also made in the USA.

It really depends on how much you pull it though, we towed our Hideout fifth wheel on factory Chinese junk tires for about 10,000km plus the 3,200km up from the factory with no issues, even through the tires were loaded to max capacity all the time. Probably could have made another 8,000km on them.

Our new fifth wheel has Good Year endurance tires, they handle better, and have less sidewall flex. Even after the tow up from the factory they still look new.

overkill19 · Jul 18, 2020

What scared me was I saw a triple axel grand designs solitude in woodys shop with the entire side ripped off, I asked the service guy did a truck side swipe that thing??? He said nope!!! Blew a tire!
Holy crap the whole side of that 44 foot trailer was removed to fix it! IMO that trailer would never be the same.

Purge purge purge!

SamStorm · Jul 18, 2020

Sailun S637. Even though its a "Chinese" tire it is probably one of the best RV tires you can buy and cost way less than Goodyears. Read any RV forum and look for reviews. Everyone swears by them.

tejay · Jul 19, 2020

They only come in two sizes apparently

Caper11 · Jul 19, 2020

110psi!

holy crap.
For a 14ply tire I expected the load rating to be much better over a 10ply.

Stompin Tom · Jul 19, 2020

I have had good luck with Carlisle. Not cheap but work well.

sirkdev · Jul 19, 2020

Caper11 said:
110psi! holy crap.
For a 14ply tire I expected the load rating to be much better over a 10ply.

air pressure disperses the heat the higher the pressure the better they cool.

brian h · Jul 19, 2020

i have had no issues with carlisle, also found run at max pressure

Cyle · Jul 19, 2020

Stompin Tom said:
I have had good luck with Carlisle. Not cheap but work well.

They aren't cheap? It's $160 for a tire and rim mounted. Not sure how it gets any cheaper then that.

I paid $240 for 14 ply sailiun S637 mounted on my own rim. Won't go back to 10 ply.

Cyle · Jul 19, 2020

Caper11 said:
110psi! holy crap.
For a 14ply tire I expected the load rating to be much better over a 10ply.

It's not just the load rating that makes them so much better, just looking at the 14 ply compared to 10 ply you can see how much more sidewall strength there is. At 80 psi 10 ply squish badly when loaded up to full capacity, whereas the 14 ply will barely budge. One bad pothole with the 10 ply and it damages the sidewall if it's loaded reasonably heavy.

Caper11 · Jul 19, 2020

Air pressure carrys the load, the plys contain the air pressure, more plys, higher air pressure ratings.

The tires on my trailer are rated for more than the axle rating and GVW of my trailer. Will a 14ply tire help me? I could only imagine how rough they would be at 110psi and not necessary. I only ran.
So inflate them to 80psi, just gained side wall toughness from potential curb damage. Thats it.

The payload on 2500 and 3500’s has increased substantially over the years. Plys are still the same on the tires.

Cyle · Jul 19, 2020

Caper11 said:
Air pressure carrys the load, the plys contain the air pressure, more plys, higher air pressure ratings.

The tires on my trailer are rated for more than the axle rating and GVW of my trailer. Will a 14ply tire help me? I could only imagine how rough they would be at 110psi and not necessary. I only ran.
So inflate them to 80psi, just gained side wall toughness from potential curb damage. Thats it.

The payload on 2500 and 3500’s has increased substantially over the years. Plys are still the same on the tires.

If 10 ply are already above the rating you load them to, they are fine. However a 14 ply would get less flats from nails, etc as they are much tougher to puncture. For me I run mine right up to 3500lbs a tire a decent amount and the 10 ply don't cut it. In about 18 months I went through 4 tires, 2 from sidewall failure. No issues since going to 14 ply. I don't see any difference in the ride, trailers ride rough no matter what you do.

While that is true, if you compare the load rating on the tires sold on a 3500 today compared to 15 years ago, they are rated for more even though both are 10 ply.

Legend14 · Jul 19, 2020

Almost no tire is made in North America anymore you might aswel give up, even Maxxis ST are still made in Asia,get the biggest tire you can with the highest ply (rating) and always run max psi

Cdnfireman · Jul 20, 2020

Goodyear endurance. American made, good quality. I put a set on my arctic fox. They run about 10 degrees cooler than the old chinabombs. On Goodyear’s website there’s an inflation chart showing what pressure to use for differing loads. For my trailer weight it allowed me to drop the pressure so that the trailer doesn’t get beat to hell yet still allow for safe tire operation and loading. They’re not cheap, but quality usually isn’t. Tires are a lousy place to cheap out on.

Teth-Air · Jul 20, 2020

And always balance trailer tires. Even the guy at the tire shop will poo-poo that idea but we have had way too many trailer tires balding in only one position before balancing.

Caper11 · Jul 20, 2020

Cdnfireman said:
Goodyear endurance. American made, good quality. I put a set on my arctic fox. They run about 10 degrees cooler than the old chinabombs. On Goodyear’s website there’s an inflation chart showing what pressure to use for differing loads. For my trailer weight it allowed me to drop the pressure so that the trailer doesn’t get beat to hell yet still allow for safe tire operation and loading. They’re not cheap, but quality usually isn’t. Tires are a lousy place to cheap out on.

Goodyear makes a good tire. My new Arctic Fox came with marathons. Made in china tho. My buddy has marathons on his 2010 timber ridge and he is still on the original tires.

https://www.goodyearrvtires.com/pdfs/rv_inflation.pdf

52weekbreak · Jul 20, 2020

Interesting all the different opinions. If you are running correct load rated tire for the way your trailer is actually loaded and check the pressure to ensure inflated to spec, you will likely be OK. You also need to inspect them for inappropriate wear due to balance, alignment or axle camber. I just changed my tires on my 2012 fifth wheel due to wear on one tire due to axle camber (since repaired). I did run that tire an extra year to make sure the camber was fixed. Second reason was age. 8 years is long enough IMO.

Installed a set of Chinese tires (235 80R 16 on sale for $140 mounted on rim and balanced. Just came back from 1200 kms trip towing and all is good. Tires were cool each time I stopped. Also changed brakes and repacked bearings while tries were off. Found a brake magnet not working.

Most blowouts are from improper air pressures for some (or all) of their operating life or sidewall damage. Inspect and check pressures before you go and feel for heat when you pull over and you will likely avoid a blow out.

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