polarischik
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I know there are tons of posts on it. But I'm becoming convinced that with the new heavy duty payload pack I can actually have a f150 with 2 sleds. Anyone have an experience? Does it actually work? Pictures?!
F150 with 2 sled deck
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deaner
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The conclusion that was reached on the last thread (after thousands of posts back and forth) was that technically yes you can do it.........but if you do youre a horrible person and only care about yourself. It is NOT tex approved
Stompin Tom
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oh boy, here we go .....................................
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0neoldfart
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Can it be done? Yes. Will it do it well? Not necessarily. Premature brake wear and accelerated suspension component wear come into play, as does tire load ratings. Also keep in mind that the advertised payload on any truck is based on a plain truck - if it has air conditioning, bigger engine, etc, this detracts from the payload capacity, as does fuel, occupants, etc. It's kinda like having a trailer advertised as being 1/2 ton towable - yes, it can physically move the trailer, but that doesn't mean the tail won't wag the dog, or the truck will effectively stop the trailer during a "holy chit" moment. So my advice is to do your homework, and know your weights AND weight distribution, because the DOT cowboys don't acknowledge " I didn't know" as a defense, and it sucks having to drop a sled on the side of the highway or be turned around with a fine.
brian h
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this questions seems to come up every year.can it be done ,yes,as oneoldfart stated should it be and with reasons is good.i think alot of people do the thought of deck weight is this much,sleds each weight this much and have in there head the 1/2ton can handle the weight. what needs to be taken into consideration all the weight is not in the truck box,look at how much sled hangs off back making weight to be all on rear axle,going onto a weight scale most likely rear axle will fail for weight.if a person is going to try remember to put sleds on deck and all riding gear,sleds full of fuel etc before heading to weight scale to confirm if it will pass,also add weight for snow in track.like previously posted dont want to leave sled on side of hi-way for being overloaded.seems like alot of people treat 1/2 tons like 3/4 tons,3/4 tons like 1 tons,1 tons like 3tons etc.suspensions,tires,brakes are the main factors to be considered adding air bags to help with load will not help with brakes etc.
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polarischik
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All true points, but the F150 can now be purchased with a payload of 3300lbs with consideration of extras. This isn't 1990 anymore, the truck is now actually deigned to carry all this weight, brakes, rear axle and suspension in mind. I agree that having it at max is not what it is actually meant to do, but there is a reason it has a heavy duty payload package. At 3300lbs, I'm well under weight with a 500 pound deck and 2-500lbs sleds. Me a riding partner and our gear probably still leaves us at least 800lbs left of capacity. I wasn't looking for the haters with the post, looking for anyone that has done it and believe it works. For the actual amount of the year that sleds are on there it is not that big of a deal.
AreWeThereYet
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You might want to replace those P rated tires
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polarischik
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Specs don't come with p rated tires.
Uh oh.... You run a single cab 2wd shortbox truck (3300lb load one)?
But in all seriousness you're probably good/close at a low 2000lb payload. 1200 of sleds, 200 passenger, 450lb sled deck comes to 1850 lbs. now add a bunch of snow/ice and bunch of gear and you're close or over.
Might want to look at axle loading too, you can exceed that before you hit payload.
But in all seriousness you're probably good/close at a low 2000lb payload. 1200 of sleds, 200 passenger, 450lb sled deck comes to 1850 lbs. now add a bunch of snow/ice and bunch of gear and you're close or over.
Might want to look at axle loading too, you can exceed that before you hit payload.
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0neoldfart
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Not hating, just advising you to cover your a$$. And quite frankly, the sales guy will be more then happy to sell you whatever gets him (or her) the commission cheque for the most part. I used to spec out trucks for fleet accounts many years ago, and I've been in your shoes too as a sledder, and had to drop a toboggan on the side of the road (with a 3/4 ton no less) as I was overweight on the rear axle. That doesn't mean the truck will not do it, at a minimum even if it will I would be purchasing air bags, as your headlight alignment will be less then stellar due to the rear of the truck being heavily loaded, especially for the poor bastage meeting you on the highway at night. Do you already own the truck? Or are you considering it as a purchase? I would suggest looking in the glovebox of the new truck, as there is specific camper loading information for that VIN as built, including weight distribution for axles and actual dry weight payload - you will be amazed how much those numbers can differ from the sales brochure.
One other significant detail: If (god forbid) you are driving and overloaded vehicle and get into an accident, your insurance may not cover you - as it wasn't being used for its intended purpose. In Canada under Bill C-45 you may be held criminally responsible by not practicing due diligence - not likely an issue for a minor fender bender, but can escalate quickly if serious injury is involved. I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade, just suggesting a little food for thought - only you can make the appropriate judgement for you, as you may have to deal with the aftermath if it arises. Best of luck, and I hope it works out for you.
Bnorth
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If I was running from Calgary to Revy all season I wouldn't do it. But I run one sled on my F150 w/deck nearly every weekend and occasionally haul two. I am over my rear axle by ~200lbs depending on occupants and gear with two sleds on and it feels fine. Brakes handle the load great coming down switchbacks. Call the fawkin cops I don't give a chit.
deaner
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Exactly what I was thinking. I would feel comfortable doing it because the riding area is only 20 minutes away and i would also only have 1 sled most of the time. Definitely wouldnt want to do it on longer trips though.
FernieHawk
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Been there...done that...still doing it.
https://www.snowandmud.com/tow-vehi...ayload-capabilities.html?highlight=heavy+duty
https://www.snowandmud.com/tow-vehi...ayload-capabilities.html?highlight=heavy+duty
Teth-Air
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"F150 with 2 sled deck"
That's just wrong. Hate to say it but get something a bit more solid.
That's just wrong. Hate to say it but get something a bit more solid.
Just went through that thread. Great information. It's nice to see someone take the time to post up the actual numbers with a list of things they carry.
S.W.A.T.
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Can drive with your knees to but doesn't mean it's a good idea
Cdnfireman
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Just a FYI, bill C-45 has nothing to do with vehicles or insurance. It's for ensuring liability for corporate officers. And an insurance company cannot " not cover you". They can sue you for costs if you've violated their policy in the event of an accident, but they have to pay the third party as per their policy
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