Looking at Used Cummins

Adam31 · Mar 18, 2017

I am looking at buying a 2016 Ram 2500 with low km and is deleted with EF Live tune. The truck is exactly what I am looking for but concerned about the lack of warranty because of being deleted. Is the warranty just void on engine or everything? I have the VIN is there anywhere i can find out what work has been done to truck at dealer? Any other input is appreciated, thanks

acesup800 · Mar 18, 2017

Generally your warranty would be void only on drivetrain. You might get lucky on some parts of the drivetrain if they dont have to open the hood.

sledneck__11 · Mar 18, 2017

Depends on the dealer, i just traded in my 2012 with 80xxx kms and dealer didnt bat a eye on it being deleted and it didnt miss a beat was a awesome truck. My dealer fixed all the little stuff under warranty but grenaded tranny or motor may be on your own dime. I did headstuds in mine to be safe rather then warp a head. Loved mine deleted will prob delete my new 350 aswell they screw you on warranty most the time anyways

catalac · Mar 18, 2017

That's a tough call, if it was run at stupid power levels maybe a disaster waiting to happen, I'd make sure a mechanical was done with attention to condition of fluids in tranny, differentials etc. Personally I think guys are nuts deleting newer trucks voiding warrantee as they get great mileage without being deleted.

Adam31 · Mar 18, 2017

catalac said:
That's a tough call, if it was run at stupid power levels maybe a disaster waiting to happen, I'd make sure a mechanical was done with attention to condition of fluids in tranny, differentials etc. Personally I think guys are nuts deleting newer trucks voiding warrantee as they get great mileage without being deleted.

Yeah that is what I am worried about. The thing has less than 10,000km in it but that also makes me wonder why someone is getting rid of it. I will be taking it for an inspection if I plan on buying.

sledneck__11 · Mar 18, 2017

My 12 driving around was 24 litres per 100 after delete 12 to 13 and was well worth it for me plus at oil changes oil looked clean not like it been in the truck for 300 thousand km i bought new so i knew what i did to the truck i myself was scared to buy a used chipped one. Do a hg check forsure

QUOTE=catalac;2384798]That's a tough call, if it was run at stupid power levels maybe a disaster waiting to happen, I'd make sure a mechanical was done with attention to condition of fluids in tranny, differentials etc. Personally I think guys are nuts deleting newer trucks voiding warrantee as they get great mileage without being deleted.[/QUOTE]

the_real_wild1 · Mar 18, 2017

Keep looking. Don't buy a deleted truck. You will not have any warranty. Been there already.

catalac · Mar 18, 2017

sledneck__11 said:
My 12 driving around was 24 litres per 100 after delete 12 to 13 and was well worth it for me plus at oil changes oil looked clean not like it been in the truck for 300 thousand km i bought new so i knew what i did to the truck i myself was scared to buy a used chipped one. Do a hg check forsure

QUOTE=catalac;2384798]That's a tough call, if it was run at stupid power levels maybe a disaster waiting to happen, I'd make sure a mechanical was done with attention to condition of fluids in tranny, differentials etc. Personally I think guys are nuts deleting newer trucks voiding warrantee as they get great mileage without being deleted.

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My 16 3500 runs 12-13 bone stock, Pre-def motor I'd do the same as you too.

Caper11 · Mar 18, 2017

If he has all the stock exhaust than go for it, but be warned you may not have any warranty on the whole truck if its flagged. Run the vin at a dealer and see if it has warranty.

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Rotax_Kid · Mar 18, 2017

My 16 3500 runs 12-13 bone stock, Pre-def motor I'd do the same as you too.[/QUOTE]

About same on my stock 14 2500...I've seen better at times than that on the highway but depends how you drive it.

Caper11 · Mar 18, 2017

sledneck__11 said:
My 12 driving around was 24 litres per 100 after delete 12 to 13 and was well worth it for me plus at oil changes oil looked clean not like it been in the truck for 300 thousand km i bought new so i knew what i did to the truck i myself was scared to buy a used chipped one. Do a hg check forsure

QUOTE=catalac;2384798]That's a tough call, if it was run at stupid power levels maybe a disaster waiting to happen, I'd make sure a mechanical was done with attention to condition of fluids in tranny, differentials etc. Personally I think guys are nuts deleting newer trucks voiding warrantee as they get great mileage without being deleted.

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My 12 gets 24l per 100 towing my trailer, all emissions stuff still on the truck. Empty Im about 12-14 depending on my mood.

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Adam31 · Mar 18, 2017

Caper11 said:
If he has all the stock exhaust than go for it, but be warned you may not have any warranty on the whole truck if its flagged. Run the vin at a dealer and see if it has warranty.

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it doesn't have the stock exhaust, 4" exhaust installed on it. Having stock exhaust would have a better chance of warranty? Yea was thinking about calling a dealer with the VIN thanks

Adam31 · Mar 18, 2017

the_real_wild1 said:
Keep looking. Don't buy a deleted truck. You will not have any warranty. Been there already.

The more I think about it, I think your right. Paying that much money for a truck with no warranty is a bit nuts.

the_real_wild1 · Mar 18, 2017

I had a 2010 cummins that was programmed, deleted etc. The dealer wouldn't touch it. Ended up trading it in for another dodge. They called me a week later looking for the stock exhaust. Im not 100% but pretty sure the a dealer isn't supposed to sell a deleted vehicle anymore. But like I said Im not 100%.

ABMax24 · Mar 18, 2017

If it were me buying a cummins I'd want warranty on it. Head-gasket issues seem to be more common on them. The nice thing about deletes is the fact that you don't have all the soot going back through the motor because of the EGR.

On a side note emissions intact trucks warm up way quicker in the winter, the EGR cooler adds a lot of heat to the engine cooling system.

Caper11 · Mar 18, 2017

Adam31 said:
The more I think about it, I think your right. Paying that much money for a truck with no warranty is a bit nuts.

No i ment does he have the stock exhaust still or did he sell it?

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Cyle · Mar 18, 2017

Agree with others, don't delete. My 13 has been perfect at 80,000kms then just this week CEL came on and wouldn't shift out of 2nd. Dealer had to pull tranny, may just be a solenoid, may be complete rebuild. Tranny has been perfect no sign of an issue before, deleting is not worth the risk of a big bill.

medler · Mar 19, 2017

I wouldn't buy it. To much risk IMO

neilsleder · Mar 19, 2017

Adam31 said:
Yeah that is what I am worried about. The thing has less than 10,000km in it but that also makes me wonder why someone is getting rid of it. I will be taking it for an inspection if I plan on buying.

Financed it then spent all the money deleting it which is lots, then can't make the payments.

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SamStorm · Mar 19, 2017

Seems like awful low kms to delete already. Thats a lot of warranty to throw away. The newer Ram's are getting great mileage stock. My 14 was getting 20-21 mpg hwy. Wish my Dirtymax was as good.
Like everyone else said, I'd steer clear of it.
Not to mention they are supposedly cracking down in BC on trucks with deletes.

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