Woman Injured Having Sex On Business Trip Wants Workers Comp

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Found this story over on the Alberta Outdoorsman forum. The read made for a good laugh. If she gets a pay out would that constitute prostitution?



An Australian public servant says she is entitled to workers compensation after she was injured while having sex in a motel room during a business trip.
The woman claims she suffered a psychiatric injury, as well as injuries to her mouth and nose, when a glass light fitting in her room smashed down onto her head while she was having sex with an “acquaintance.”
Her claim was already rejected by ComCare, the workers’ compensation insurer for the Australian Commonwealth government, but she is now challenging that ruling in Australia’s federal court.
This week, the woman’s lawyer, Leo Grey, argued the woman — whose name and place of work are protected under a publication ban — is entitled to compensation because sex is “an ordinary incident of life,” akin to showering, sleeping and eating.
The incident occurred in November 2007 when the woman was required by her department to visit a regional office in New South Wales.
Grey said the woman was required to spend the night in the motel, which was chosen by her department. He further argued that the woman’s employer should have explicitly informed her that having sex while on a business trip was not appropriate.
“Sexual activity is an ordinary lawful incident of life that may be foreseeably undertaken by an employee such as the Applicant in a motel room during an interval or interlude in a period of employment involving an overnight stay,” reads the notice of appeal.
In an email to the Star, Grey said the case hinges of a “narrow legal issue,” and is not about morality or humour.
“My client was actually quite significantly injured and emotionally traumatized, both by her injury and the way it has been reported as a subject of fun, which for her it is not,” he said.
“It is also important to note that she did nothing wrong. She was a single woman who met up for a social evening with a man she already knew in the town she had gone to on business. There was no suggestion of any misconduct or failure to follow departmental guidelines.”
The insurance company is arguing the woman should not be compensated because having sex has no relation to the woman’s job and took place outside the course of her employment. In his submission to the court, ComCare’s lawyer, Andrew Berger, wrote the woman would only have a case if her employer “required” her to have sex.
“The applicant’s sexual activity which led her to injury can…be characterized as something that was not obviously involved in her employer’s requirement for an overnight stay; was not of any benefit to the employer; was a frolic of her own; and took her outside the course of her employment by engaging in an activity unrelated to her employment and not positively supported by her employer,” reads Berger’s submission.
The Herald Sun that the woman’s sexual partner said they were “going hard” when the incident with the light fixture took place.
“I do not know if we bumped the light or it just fell off,” he said. “I think she was on her back when it happened but I was not paying attention because we were rolling around.”
David Whitten, a Toronto employment lawyer who is not involved in the case, said the woman must prove that having sex was reasonably incidental to her work-related trip.
“In a case where someone is traveling for work and they’re required to go out to get some food to eat, as everyone has to, and they slip and fall, that could be regarded as incidental to the job,” he told the Star.
“Slipping in the shower would count, because you have to keep yourself clean. Is having sex necessary when you’re on a trip? All of us would probably like to have our spouses with us, but I don’t think you’re going to be able to effectively argue it’s absolutely necessary for the purposes of the job. That’s where she would fall short here.”
The judge has reserved his decision. It’s not clear when a verdict will be issued.
 

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to be honest, I completey agree with her. I travel for business. If I am staying somewhere for 4 days and decide to go to a movie, I wouldn't be covered if in an accident?? I wouldn't be going to that movie if I was at home with my family.

IMO, if an employer is requiring you to stay overnight, then they are liable for covering all legal activities while on their business trip.
 

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to be honest, I completey agree with her. I travel for business. If I am staying somewhere for 4 days and decide to go to a movie, I wouldn't be covered if in an accident?? I wouldn't be going to that movie if I was at home with my family.IMO, if an employer is requiring you to stay overnight, then they are liable for covering all legal activities while on their business trip.
Are you joking?
 

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Entertainment doesn't fall in the "business" category of your trip and should not be covered if said theater goes up in flames
the employer pays you to be there to work... not get your rocks off at the movies!


NOW the story stated is a different matter (maybe) since the hotel room that fell apart, which would of happened regardless if she were fawkin some dude or not.... unless its the wild animal sex she was having that caused the room to fall apart ... then its her own damn fault
 

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Shouldnt the hotel be responsible (if it was their poor maintenance)? Should have nothing to do with the employer
 

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depends on if the company selected the hotel, your employer has no say in your life outside of work (or should not anyway) While engaged in company business WCB covers you for any injury, when not on the clock your decisions are yours and so should be the consequences... it's a lot of grey area. When a worker is in camp he/she is covered by WCB under the employers insurance this is because the employer requires said worker to reside in camp....however if they leave camp and go to the bar/theater/restuarant/gym etc.. they are not, if the employer dictated where she was to stay AND the injury was caused by defective motel equipment than she might have a case...otherwise I think a lawsuit against the motel would give her better odds of winning...

As someone who represents employers in matters of OH&S I find often people want somewhere to place blame for thier own actions and the employer is an easy target... kind of like the age old question...if you are injured in a car accident on your way to work are you covered????? unless you are paid travel time for your commute absolutely not...


Entertainment doesn't fall in the "business" category of your trip and should not be covered if said theater goes up in flames
the employer pays you to be there to work... not get your rocks off at the movies!


NOW the story stated is a different matter (maybe) since the hotel room that fell apart, which would of happened regardless if she were fawkin some dude or not.... unless its the wild animal sex she was having that caused the room to fall apart ... then its her own damn fault
 
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Found this story over on the Alberta Outdoorsman forum. The read made for a good laugh. If she gets a pay out would that constitute prostitution?



An Australian public servant says she is entitled to workers compensation after she was injured while having sex in a motel room during a business trip.
The woman claims she suffered a psychiatric injury, as well as injuries to her mouth and nose, when a glass light fitting in her room smashed down onto her head while she was having sex with an “acquaintance.”
Her claim was already rejected by ComCare, the workers’ compensation insurer for the Australian Commonwealth government, but she is now challenging that ruling in Australia’s federal court.
This week, the woman’s lawyer, Leo Grey, argued the woman — whose name and place of work are protected under a publication ban — is entitled to compensation because sex is “an ordinary incident of life,” akin to showering, sleeping and eating.
The incident occurred in November 2007 when the woman was required by her department to visit a regional office in New South Wales.
Grey said the woman was required to spend the night in the motel, which was chosen by her department. He further argued that the woman’s employer should have explicitly informed her that having sex while on a business trip was not appropriate.
“Sexual activity is an ordinary lawful incident of life that may be foreseeably undertaken by an employee such as the Applicant in a motel room during an interval or interlude in a period of employment involving an overnight stay,” reads the notice of appeal.
In an email to the Star, Grey said the case hinges of a “narrow legal issue,” and is not about morality or humour.
“My client was actually quite significantly injured and emotionally traumatized, both by her injury and the way it has been reported as a subject of fun, which for her it is not,” he said.
“It is also important to note that she did nothing wrong. She was a single woman who met up for a social evening with a man she already knew in the town she had gone to on business. There was no suggestion of any misconduct or failure to follow departmental guidelines.”
The insurance company is arguing the woman should not be compensated because having sex has no relation to the woman’s job and took place outside the course of her employment. In his submission to the court, ComCare’s lawyer, Andrew Berger, wrote the woman would only have a case if her employer “required” her to have sex.
“The applicant’s sexual activity which led her to injury can…be characterized as something that was not obviously involved in her employer’s requirement for an overnight stay; was not of any benefit to the employer; was a frolic of her own; and took her outside the course of her employment by engaging in an activity unrelated to her employment and not positively supported by her employer,” reads Berger’s submission.
The Herald Sun that the woman’s sexual partner said they were “going hard” when the incident with the light fixture took place.
“I do not know if we bumped the light or it just fell off,” he said. “I think she was on her back when it happened but I was not paying attention because we were rolling around.”
David Whitten, a Toronto employment lawyer who is not involved in the case, said the woman must prove that having sex was reasonably incidental to her work-related trip.
“In a case where someone is traveling for work and they’re required to go out to get some food to eat, as everyone has to, and they slip and fall, that could be regarded as incidental to the job,” he told the Star.
“Slipping in the shower would count, because you have to keep yourself clean. Is having sex necessary when you’re on a trip? All of us would probably like to have our spouses with us, but I don’t think you’re going to be able to effectively argue it’s absolutely necessary for the purposes of the job. That’s where she would fall short here.”
The judge has reserved his decision. It’s not clear when a verdict will be issued.

REALLY? wow some people are fuggin retarded. how the hell would you forget the position when it happened? did they just keep rolling around? I would think a light fixture falling on your partners head would pretty much "kill" the moment and you would remember what position you were in when it happened. Basically what happened here is she was riding along on top and must of either bounced to high or went to stand up and hit her head on it which in turn caused it to fall and knock her in the head. So under those circumstances she is not eligible for workmans comp since it was no "malfunction" of the motel under "normal" use.

I should quit my day job and become a Judge!:d
 

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depends on if the company selected the hotel, your employer has no say in your life outside of work (or should not anyway) While engaged in company business WCB covers you for any injury, when not on the clock your decisions are yours and so should be the consequences... it's a lot of grey area. When a worker is in camp he/she is covered by WCB under the employers insurance this is because the employer requires said worker to reside in camp....however if they leave camp and go to the bar/theater/restuarant/gym etc.. they are not, if the employer dictated where she was to stay AND the injury was caused by defective motel equipment than she might have a case...otherwise I think a lawsuit against the motel would give her better odds of winning...

As someone who represents employers in matters of OH&S I find often people want somewhere to place blame for thier own actions and the employer is an easy target... kind of like the age old question...if you are injured in a car accident on your way to work are you covered????? unless you are paid travel time for your commute absolutely not...

When I travel for business, I am on company business the minute I arrive at the airport and am off the minute I get into my car to go home. The company has required me to travel and approves of all legal activities while traveling.

The company gives me a medical card to cover for injuries while in the States. There are no limitations to the coverage. If I am injured while traveling on business, I use the card for medical care.

I am not on my own time while traveling. I am on company time. It is a condition of employment. I am reasonably certain WCB charges extra for coverage for companies with traveling employees.
 

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depends on if the company selected the hotel, your employer has no say in your life outside of work (or should not anyway) While engaged in company business WCB covers you for any injury, when not on the clock your decisions are yours and so should be the consequences... it's a lot of grey area. When a worker is in camp he/she is covered by WCB under the employers insurance this is because the employer requires said worker to reside in camp....however if they leave camp and go to the bar/theater/restuarant/gym etc.. they are not, if the employer dictated where she was to stay AND the injury was caused by defective motel equipment than she might have a case...otherwise I think a lawsuit against the motel would give her better odds of winning...

As someone who represents employers in matters of OH&S I find often people want somewhere to place blame for thier own actions and the employer is an easy target... kind of like the age old question...if you are injured in a car accident on your way to work are you covered????? unless you are paid travel time for your commute absolutely not...

my point exactly Bogs..... just way more elaborated
 

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When I travel for business, I am on company business the minute I arrive at the airport and am off the minute I get into my car to go home. The company has required me to travel and approves of all legal activities while traveling.

The company gives me a medical card to cover for injuries while in the States. There are no limitations to the coverage. If I am injured while traveling on business, I use the card for medical care.

I am not on my own time while traveling. I am on company time. It is a condition of employment. I am reasonably certain WCB charges extra for coverage for companies with traveling employees.

depending on your company policy... but if you go to the bar or movies, this is OUTSIDE of your scope of work that required you to travel and i would say for 99% (throwing and arbitrary statistic out there) of all companies that wouldn't be covered
now if you have a deal with your company that your leisure time is covered as well then good for you
but in most cases, it is not and shouldn't be
 

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also that card you have is a company medical insurance card not a WCB card... Employers have every right to go over and above the basic WCB coverage, if you were injured while away the company can look after you all they want but WCB will only cover injuries incured in the course of employment... WCB & Private insurance ate two totally separate entities...
 
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