Joe Legal vs. Jose ILLegal

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Received this in an email, very interesting:


You have two families: "WORKING JOE " vs "WELFARE JOE ". Both families
have two parents, two children, and lives in Canada.

WORKING Joe works in construction, has a Social Insurance Number and
makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Welfare Joe does not work, has a Social Insurance Number, and gets paid
$15.00 per hour "without leaving the house".

Ready? Now pay attention...

Working Joe : $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or
$52,000.00 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal taxes.
Working Joe now has $31,231.00 net.

Welfare Joe : $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or
$31,200.00 per year. Welfare Jose pays no taxes. Welfare Joe now has
$31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for
his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Working Joe now
has $24,031.00 net.

Welfare Joe has full medical and dental coverage through the Provincial
and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has
$31,200.00 net.

Working Joe makes too much money and is not eligible for welfare.
Working Joe pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.
Working Joe now has $18,031 net.

Welfare Joe has no documented income and is eligible for welfare.
Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net.


Working Joe pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year.
Working Joe now has $9,631.00 net.

Welfare Joe receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Welfare
Joe pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Welfare Joe
still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for auto insurance.
Working Joe now has $7,231.00 net.

Welfare Joe says,/* "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!"*/ and still
has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, etc.

Welfare Joe has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, buy
gas, prepaid cell phone card, (alcohol/cigarettes) and play at the
Casino.

Working Joe now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job
after work.

Welfare Joe has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family &
friends.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe's children attend the same school.
Working Joe pays for his children's lunches while Welfare Joe's children
get a government sponsored lunch.
Working Joe's children go home after school, while Welfare Joe's
children have an after school ESL program provided free.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe both enjoy the same police and fire
services, but working Joe paid for them with his taxes and Welfare Joe
did not.

Do you get it, now?

If you support any politician that supports our welfare system, you are
part of the problem!

It's way PAST time to take a stand for Canada and Canadians!!

What are you waiting for? Pass it on!
 

plio7

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2 sides to every story.....talk to someone yo know personally thats on welfare and find out if its really all sunshine and fairy tales......i grew up with close friends on welfare who had to shop at salvation army for their back to school clothes....not all is as its written guys

Now take 30% away for state and federal taxes...... also lets not take american legislature into canadian chit

Now take 30% away for state and federal taxes.
Working Joe now has $31,231.00 net.


Received this in an email, very interesting:


You have two families: "WORKING JOE " vs "WELFARE JOE ". Both families
have two parents, two children, and lives in Canada.

WORKING Joe works in construction, has a Social Insurance Number and
makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Welfare Joe does not work, has a Social Insurance Number, and gets paid
$15.00 per hour "without leaving the house".

Ready? Now pay attention...

Working Joe : $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or
$52,000.00 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal taxes.
Working Joe now has $31,231.00 net.

Welfare Joe : $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or
$31,200.00 per year. Welfare Jose pays no taxes. Welfare Joe now has
$31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for
his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Working Joe now
has $24,031.00 net.

Welfare Joe has full medical and dental coverage through the Provincial
and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has
$31,200.00 net.

Working Joe makes too much money and is not eligible for welfare.
Working Joe pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.
Working Joe now has $18,031 net.

Welfare Joe has no documented income and is eligible for welfare.
Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net.


Working Joe pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year.
Working Joe now has $9,631.00 net.

Welfare Joe receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Welfare
Joe pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Welfare Joe
still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for auto insurance.
Working Joe now has $7,231.00 net.

Welfare Joe says,/* "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!"*/ and still
has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, etc.

Welfare Joe has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, buy
gas, prepaid cell phone card, (alcohol/cigarettes) and play at the
Casino.

Working Joe now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job
after work.

Welfare Joe has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family &
friends.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe's children attend the same school.
Working Joe pays for his children's lunches while Welfare Joe's children
get a government sponsored lunch.
Working Joe's children go home after school, while Welfare Joe's
children have an after school ESL program provided free.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe both enjoy the same police and fire
services, but working Joe paid for them with his taxes and Welfare Joe
did not.

Do you get it, now?

If you support any politician that supports our welfare system, you are
part of the problem!

It's way PAST time to take a stand for Canada and Canadians!!

What are you waiting for? Pass it on!
 

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sorry there pilo he is being kind, in canada you can expect to pay 40% taxes and gst pst. also seen the work challenged in years past. had lots of kids= more money, both parents smoked 2 packs a day liked to drink for a past time etc. could have been working, but liked to drink a little.

yes not all are this way, just seems the honest hard working guy just can't get ahead. social workers are a joke, you will never save the world, but can have a great time on taxpayers cash.
 

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how about the temp foreign workers.......who skip out on the job after making lots of friends...and work for cash...or just sell drugs etc............I know of a few ..... I seen one guy that lost his job a few years ago.....he comes up to me and asks hey you need some coke or anything...(he tells me he was supposed to be deported but then went below the radar)....he drives a better vehicle than I do and has been evading immigration for the last few years.........................but hey go on the service canada website and try to find a link to report his ass.........there's not one to be found.....but* tonns to supply him with appeals processess to stay in canada.................Just saying there are lots of canadians as well as foreigners that can take advantage of the so called system.....and if you can't get the system to work then they just work the system
 

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The top hedge fund managers averaged a billion dollars income EACH last year... when everyone else was losing their retirement.....but lets blame the economic woes on the welfare recipients. Lets see $1,000,000,000.00 divided by well we'll say $40,000.00 per welfare family just to round up = 25000 families. I guess it's just alot easier to piss on the heads of the people below you than to look up and risk getting an eyeful...
 

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I'm pretty sure in Canada you would still be paying taxes if on welfare
 

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I'm pretty sure in Canada you would still be paying taxes if on welfare

nope the lady that did our income taxes told us yesterday people that collect welfare do not pay taxes but still have to file a return so they can get a gst credit, child tax benefit and what ever other benefits the lazy Fugger's get.
 

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$25 an hour.What about the people that are to proud to be on welfare and only make $15.And also whenever you pass a money mart its full of foriegners sending money back to their relatives.So they can come here and take advantage of our system.When we're in a recession the government should stop this and keep our money here.
 

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what about us guys that have our own business? cant get EI even tho I paid into it for 10 years before a started contract work...
cant collect wefare because i've made too much in the past 3 years...
If I was a bum my whole life I could get something from the gov't but since im a hard worker and I get told to get F#$%^d when I need assistance.
 

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what about us guys that have our own business? cant get EI even tho I paid into it for 10 years before a started contract work...
cant collect wefare because i've made too much in the past 3 years...
If I was a bum my whole life I could get something from the gov't but since im a hard worker and I get told to get F#$%^d when I need assistance.

great point!! No one to bail our butt in case of hardship. We know a kid who has been on welfare most of his life (under his parents) and now he is 21 and still on welfare. He was even getting vouchers for a night at the movies and swimming at the local pool. There was literally no incentive for him to go and work and make 10 bucks an hr as he clearly does better on welfare. He also had free dental to boot. That burns my azzzzzz!!
 

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