skegpro
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Your thinking of the wrong environmental twat.
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Catman2007
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I agree, not saying dont do anything. I live close to there and have spent alot of time hunting, quadding, camping, fishing and sledding out there it would sure be sh!tty if it was closed.
imdoo'n
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yes Climate barbie would be the one who owns this pile of crap!!!!
imdoo'n
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unfortunately doorfx is right! , read the bottom of the blurb you posted, it is Climate Barbie who is responsible for this chit pile. not phillips, Again unfortunately.
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skegpro
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I agree, and it says Mckenna........
imdoo'n
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still going to pizz the ski crowd off,
, although i don't see them caring about Sledders/Quadders as such!
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whoDEANie
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This could be the best news I've heard since this BS officially started on Jan 20, 2017! I would have never guessed that it would be the natives that came to our rescue.
Headline: Over 300 attend Brazeau County’s “Ask a Question” session about Bighorn Country proposal
By Cathy Weetman Western Review
With only 13 questions being taken during the Alberta Government’s telephone town hall meeting held January 15, Brazeau County held their own session at the MacKenzie Centre January 16 to take in questions from residents regarding the Bighorn Country development plan.
Over 300 attended the event that drew residents from Drayton Valley, Brazeau County, Sunchild First Nations, O’Chiese First Nations, Rocky Mountain House and those who make their living near Bighorn County. Also in attendance were representatives from Rally Canada and Drayton Valley Mayor Michael Doerksen.
On hand to receive questions from the audience and to read questions from those who were unable to ask them in person were Reeve Bart Guyon and councillors Heidi Swan, Donna Wiltse, Marc Gressler, Kara Westerlund, Anthony Heinrich and Sara Wheale.
Guyon welcomed attendees and stressed the meeting was non-partisan.
“We thought as a council we still wanted to hear from everybody, so this meeting is really about you guys,” he said, adding that some computers were also set up for residents to take the Alberta Government’s online survey about the Bighorn Country proposal. “The more people that have their say, the better off we all will be because sometimes you get a one-sided view in these town halls.”
He added there is no limit to the amount of times a resident can fill out the online survey.
Attendees entering the hall for the session were asked to fill out a form letter about where they reside, whether they’re opposed to the Bighorn Country proposal and any additional comments they cared to make. The letters, along with a recording of the session, will be forwarded to Environment and Parks Minister Shannon Phillips.
One of the first questions asked during the evening was from Doug Galavan from Rally Canada. He asked Guyon if there is a legal avenue the county can take to get an injunction stopping the proposal. Guyon replied that is outside of the county’s mandate; however, later in the meeting, Francis Strawberry from the O’Chiese First Nations, said he opposes the proposal because he still continues to hunt and trap on the land, and the Bighorn proposal affects their Treaty 6.
“There’s an obligation. We have the right to hunt and trap where we want because it’s Crown land. It is 100 per cent possible we’re going to get a court injunction,” said Strawberry.
Cleon Strawberry, also from O’Chiese, said he was opposed to the Bighorn proposal because of the treaties signed back in 1876, well before Alberta became a province in 1905.
Drayton Valley auctioneer Corey Sekura said he would donate money to the First Nations in order for them to hire a lawyer to begin an injunction.
Other questions came from local business owners, representatives of the West Central Riverboat Association, ranchers from the Bighorn Country, and a final comment was made from a Rocky Mountain House resident who attended a public information session in his town a few weeks previously where nine RCMP members were in attendance.
“It’s refreshing to see the town and county working together. It’s nice to see we can have a meeting without the RCMP showing up,” he said.
Rally Canada media representative Tom Hinderks said near the end of the two hour meeting, “I would like to thank the county for giving us a voice to the people and where we have been peaceful, respectful and civil.”
Headline: Over 300 attend Brazeau County’s “Ask a Question” session about Bighorn Country proposal
By Cathy Weetman Western Review
With only 13 questions being taken during the Alberta Government’s telephone town hall meeting held January 15, Brazeau County held their own session at the MacKenzie Centre January 16 to take in questions from residents regarding the Bighorn Country development plan.
Over 300 attended the event that drew residents from Drayton Valley, Brazeau County, Sunchild First Nations, O’Chiese First Nations, Rocky Mountain House and those who make their living near Bighorn County. Also in attendance were representatives from Rally Canada and Drayton Valley Mayor Michael Doerksen.
On hand to receive questions from the audience and to read questions from those who were unable to ask them in person were Reeve Bart Guyon and councillors Heidi Swan, Donna Wiltse, Marc Gressler, Kara Westerlund, Anthony Heinrich and Sara Wheale.
Guyon welcomed attendees and stressed the meeting was non-partisan.
“We thought as a council we still wanted to hear from everybody, so this meeting is really about you guys,” he said, adding that some computers were also set up for residents to take the Alberta Government’s online survey about the Bighorn Country proposal. “The more people that have their say, the better off we all will be because sometimes you get a one-sided view in these town halls.”
He added there is no limit to the amount of times a resident can fill out the online survey.
Attendees entering the hall for the session were asked to fill out a form letter about where they reside, whether they’re opposed to the Bighorn Country proposal and any additional comments they cared to make. The letters, along with a recording of the session, will be forwarded to Environment and Parks Minister Shannon Phillips.
One of the first questions asked during the evening was from Doug Galavan from Rally Canada. He asked Guyon if there is a legal avenue the county can take to get an injunction stopping the proposal. Guyon replied that is outside of the county’s mandate; however, later in the meeting, Francis Strawberry from the O’Chiese First Nations, said he opposes the proposal because he still continues to hunt and trap on the land, and the Bighorn proposal affects their Treaty 6.
“There’s an obligation. We have the right to hunt and trap where we want because it’s Crown land. It is 100 per cent possible we’re going to get a court injunction,” said Strawberry.
Cleon Strawberry, also from O’Chiese, said he was opposed to the Bighorn proposal because of the treaties signed back in 1876, well before Alberta became a province in 1905.
Drayton Valley auctioneer Corey Sekura said he would donate money to the First Nations in order for them to hire a lawyer to begin an injunction.
Other questions came from local business owners, representatives of the West Central Riverboat Association, ranchers from the Bighorn Country, and a final comment was made from a Rocky Mountain House resident who attended a public information session in his town a few weeks previously where nine RCMP members were in attendance.
“It’s refreshing to see the town and county working together. It’s nice to see we can have a meeting without the RCMP showing up,” he said.
Rally Canada media representative Tom Hinderks said near the end of the two hour meeting, “I would like to thank the county for giving us a voice to the people and where we have been peaceful, respectful and civil.”
doorfx
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Do you have the link for that article?
skinnybitch
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https://www.draytonvalleywesternrev...ask-a-question-session-about-bighorn-proposal
The Sunchild and O'Chiese were never consulted about Bighorn either. At about 6-1/2 minutes in this live vid from DV's rally you will hear Joey Pete, a councillor from Sunchild speak about their take on the Bighorn.
https://www.facebook.com/FingerLing23/videos/10217234460510048/
whoDEANie
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Clearwater should have one of these too...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1142650162526168/permalink/1161412960649888/
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GOOD ARTICLE BY LORNE GUNTER IN TODAY'S EDMONTON SUN:
[h=1]GUNTER: NDP's blinding prejudice to rural Albertans[/h]
[h=1]GUNTER: NDP's blinding prejudice to rural Albertans[/h]
Lorne Gunter
Published: January 24, 2019
Updated: January 24, 2019 4:00 AM MST
“Hic sunt dracones.”Maps from the age of exploration sometimes contained the Latin phrase for “here be dragons.” Along with illustrations of fire-breathing lizards or sea monsters, the phrase indicated unknown territories where strange and deadly creatures might swallow up sailors who ventured into the dark places.It’s not hard to imagine maps of Alberta hanging on the wall at NDP headquarters carrying the phrase “hic sunt dracones” outside Edmonton. Beyond the friendly confines of the capital, the NDP are pretty sure there might be dragons. Or at least potentially violent hillbillies.Beyond Edmonton is dark territory to this government.I was in the process of writing a column on Tuesday’s announcement of $440 million in taxpayer loans to a private company to build a partial upgrader of bitumen in Alberta, when Environment and Parks Minister Shannon Phillips announced she would be holding a fourth “telephone town hall” on the New Democrats’ highly controversial Bighorn Country parks proposal.
“Telephone town hall?” That used to be called a conference call.Phillips, who refuses to meet Albertans face-to-face to explain the government’s plan to create or enhance parks and protected areas more than five times the size of Edmonton in the Rockies’ foothills, will give up an hour of her time – a whole hour! – early Thursday evening to hear from people in the Edmonton region.Why an impersonal telephone consultation about such a monumental decision – one that threatens thousands of Albertans’ livelihoods and recreations?Well, if the minister went in-person to Drayton Valley or Sundre or Red Deer, there might be dragons.Remember, earlier this month Phillips cancelled local information meetings because, she claimed, the RCMP advised her to and even had open files it was investigating concerning threats of violence from opponents of the parks plan.Except, of course, the RCMP said no such thing.But Phillips and the NDP are still, obviously, driven by their prejudice that rural Albertans are incapable of expressing themselves peacefully. So the minister is hearing from interested citizens by phone. For 60 minutes.
Conference calls are no substitute for in-person hearings. Also, because no one can see who is directing traffic behind the scenes, it is possible (entirely likely?) the government will control who gets heard.Too many anti-Bighorn callers start making comments? Have call screeners push more supporters to the front of the line.There is no guarantee the process will be democratic or transparent.The loan guarantee for a bitumen upgrader, also announced Tuesday, is interesting, but that’s just about where it ends. Interesting.Premier Rachel Notley proposes Alberta taxpayers, who her government are already plunging into debt at breakneck speed, go $440 million further into debt to help a privately held company, Value Creation Inc. (which is not publicly traded) revive its Heartland Upgrader in Strathcona County.Like Notley’s Made-in-Alberta energy strategy in general, the idea of a refinery here, in this province, to upgrade oilsands bitumen to medium crude oil and an ultra low-sulphur diesel is a nice one.But like the rest of the NDP’s Made-in-Alberta strategy, if these projects make so much sense economically, why do we taxpayers have to foot so much of the bill?The Heartland Upgrader was pitched a decade ago by a Value Creation subsidiary, B.A. Energy, that went out of business before it could stick Shovel One in the ground.It would be great if Value Creation could partially refine 77,500 barrels of bitumen a day into medium oil and diesel, both of which are easier to move in pipelines. But they still need pipelines.So refining more bitumen at home still doesn’t solve our fundamental problem – getting it to market.
And it makes me doubly dubious to know that Value Creation operates no existing production or refining facilities.Maybe it’s technology will work or may “hic sunt dracones” for taxpayers.
Published: January 24, 2019
Updated: January 24, 2019 4:00 AM MST
“Hic sunt dracones.”Maps from the age of exploration sometimes contained the Latin phrase for “here be dragons.” Along with illustrations of fire-breathing lizards or sea monsters, the phrase indicated unknown territories where strange and deadly creatures might swallow up sailors who ventured into the dark places.It’s not hard to imagine maps of Alberta hanging on the wall at NDP headquarters carrying the phrase “hic sunt dracones” outside Edmonton. Beyond the friendly confines of the capital, the NDP are pretty sure there might be dragons. Or at least potentially violent hillbillies.Beyond Edmonton is dark territory to this government.I was in the process of writing a column on Tuesday’s announcement of $440 million in taxpayer loans to a private company to build a partial upgrader of bitumen in Alberta, when Environment and Parks Minister Shannon Phillips announced she would be holding a fourth “telephone town hall” on the New Democrats’ highly controversial Bighorn Country parks proposal.
“Telephone town hall?” That used to be called a conference call.Phillips, who refuses to meet Albertans face-to-face to explain the government’s plan to create or enhance parks and protected areas more than five times the size of Edmonton in the Rockies’ foothills, will give up an hour of her time – a whole hour! – early Thursday evening to hear from people in the Edmonton region.Why an impersonal telephone consultation about such a monumental decision – one that threatens thousands of Albertans’ livelihoods and recreations?Well, if the minister went in-person to Drayton Valley or Sundre or Red Deer, there might be dragons.Remember, earlier this month Phillips cancelled local information meetings because, she claimed, the RCMP advised her to and even had open files it was investigating concerning threats of violence from opponents of the parks plan.Except, of course, the RCMP said no such thing.But Phillips and the NDP are still, obviously, driven by their prejudice that rural Albertans are incapable of expressing themselves peacefully. So the minister is hearing from interested citizens by phone. For 60 minutes.
Conference calls are no substitute for in-person hearings. Also, because no one can see who is directing traffic behind the scenes, it is possible (entirely likely?) the government will control who gets heard.Too many anti-Bighorn callers start making comments? Have call screeners push more supporters to the front of the line.There is no guarantee the process will be democratic or transparent.The loan guarantee for a bitumen upgrader, also announced Tuesday, is interesting, but that’s just about where it ends. Interesting.Premier Rachel Notley proposes Alberta taxpayers, who her government are already plunging into debt at breakneck speed, go $440 million further into debt to help a privately held company, Value Creation Inc. (which is not publicly traded) revive its Heartland Upgrader in Strathcona County.Like Notley’s Made-in-Alberta energy strategy in general, the idea of a refinery here, in this province, to upgrade oilsands bitumen to medium crude oil and an ultra low-sulphur diesel is a nice one.But like the rest of the NDP’s Made-in-Alberta strategy, if these projects make so much sense economically, why do we taxpayers have to foot so much of the bill?The Heartland Upgrader was pitched a decade ago by a Value Creation subsidiary, B.A. Energy, that went out of business before it could stick Shovel One in the ground.It would be great if Value Creation could partially refine 77,500 barrels of bitumen a day into medium oil and diesel, both of which are easier to move in pipelines. But they still need pipelines.So refining more bitumen at home still doesn’t solve our fundamental problem – getting it to market.
And it makes me doubly dubious to know that Value Creation operates no existing production or refining facilities.Maybe it’s technology will work or may “hic sunt dracones” for taxpayers.
imdoo'n
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Philips just recorded her telephone question interview with paid Y2Y, advocates, and replayed it the twit was never there, just a recording! she has been caught so many times now, who could believe any non public interview with her at all.
the phone conference with S Phillips is fake!! prerecorded BS, put together to fool everyone! come on guys think about it? 13 questions, real easy, all fitting Y2Y agenda, no video or TV presence. anyone believing this drivel is legit, is a useful idiot!
the phone conference with S Phillips is fake!! prerecorded BS, put together to fool everyone! come on guys think about it? 13 questions, real easy, all fitting Y2Y agenda, no video or TV presence. anyone believing this drivel is legit, is a useful idiot!
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Everyone should watch this^
It seems the only day these politicians are accountable to the public is on election day.
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