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Evans waterless coolant ,Well would you use it in your quad or side by side ,also what about the rad ,if you use it ,what's your thoughts are ,I have a 1000 s rzr and a brute 750 and just wondering if I should go that way or not
 

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Prestone makes several different concoctions of antifreeze, the also make a brand that has the same ingredient as evans waterless coolant. I think if I remember right is for large diesel trucks. They make a brand for every application. I had a Yamaha rhino that had overheating issues, man the heat coming off that center council was nasty. I put in Prestones X-treme sport premixed antifreeze. What a friggen difference that stuff makes, inside the cab it felt like the temperature dropped 30C. It has never overheated since then. I now have it in my sleds as well.
 

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Not sure running that much hotter at the cylinder heads is a good idea in small engines. Preston low tox is propylene glycol and a lot cheaper than evans which has the same ingredients.
 
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I use a product called "water wetter" mixed with prestone long life and de ionized water
 

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I seen a video by power mods and he puts it in everything he rides ,he uses the Evans waterless coolant,
 

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Right off the amzoil site.. antifreeze additives ..haha. Engine ice is another high priced propylene glycol antifreeze, sierra is even more expensive, evans and several other low tox brands including amzoil are made from propylene glycol.



  • AMSOIL Dominator Coolant Boost (25°F reduction)
  • Royal Purple Purple Ice (22°F reduction)
  • Red Line Water Wetter (20°F reduction)
  • Lucas Super Coolant (20°F reduction)
 

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Dave’s diesel repair in achison sells Evans coolant at a decent price. Wasn’t much more than a jug of traditional coolant from a power sports dealer.

Obviously more than a standard jug at Canadian tire.
 

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Most automotive antifreeze is ethylene glycol and now some are propylene glycol. Ethylene is more toxic but less is required v.s. water component for equal freeze protection compared to propylene glycol. Diesel motors run hotter at the heat transfer surfaces so require tri-ethylene glycol so it won't break down. Nothing beats water for heat transfer and low energy to pump it around. That said the glycol is a necessary evil to stop freeze up. Corrosion is another concern and a glycol with aluminum corrosion inhibitors is a must. The less glycol of any kind to achieve your protection from freezing and corrosion is best. Be cautious of cooling claims from manufacturers because running more or less of the product compared to the water amount can change the cooling capabilities.
 

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You would think guys with large fleets of trucks would be running stuff that increased heat and lowers the pressure and gets better economy. Maybe there are some issues with warranties.
 

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Most automotive antifreeze is ethylene glycol and now some are propylene glycol. Ethylene is more toxic but less is required v.s. water component for equal freeze protection compared to propylene glycol. Diesel motors run hotter at the heat transfer surfaces so require tri-ethylene glycol so it won't break down. Nothing beats water for heat transfer and low energy to pump it around. That said the glycol is a necessary evil to stop freeze up. Corrosion is another concern and a glycol with aluminum corrosion inhibitors is a must. The less glycol of any kind to achieve your protection from freezing and corrosion is best. Be cautious of cooling claims from manufacturers because running more or less of the product compared to the water amount can change the cooling capabilities.

Well said.
These sort of products always made me wonder what the loss was, and I was curious how the temp can be lowered just by putting that additive in the rad. The rad is the heat transfer source so I wonder if the additive is cleaning the cooling system, making The coolant flow more laminar again.
 

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Well said.
These sort of products always made me wonder what the loss was, and I was curious how the temp can be lowered just by putting that additive in the rad. The rad is the heat transfer source so I wonder if the additive is cleaning the cooling system, making The coolant flow more laminar again.

Evans isn't an additive, it replaces the coolant. There are a few reasons why it works but I don't remember them anymore.
 

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It's funny to think most of the world doesn't need antifreeze that's how I found out about water wetter it's like a cleaner and lubricant
 

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I've used Engine Ice for about 3 years before I discovered how effective a rad relocate is. It helped a lot but can only get you so far if your rad is plugged up. Nothing beats a rad relocate.

The downside to coolants like Engine Ice include:
- price
- They loose their effectiveness if mixed with water.
- They will gel up if mixed with regular coolant.
- freezes at a higher temp
 

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Evans is not going to boil over or develop pressure. Engine ice has the best name..it sounds really cool. I know one thing for sure. Prestone X-treme sport works
 
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My boss has the evens in his propane powered grain truck , and when empty going down the hwy the temp runs around 220 degrees and when loaded up to 280 ,that's crazy temp and that motor just keeps running , so that being said what kind of temp is it going to be in my quad or my rzr , isn't it hard on an ATV motor if you are going to be running it hotter than normal,or do I have it all wrong
 

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I am not sure how the higher temperature would effect you atv's. But i think a diesel truck it is fine, it will never boil over and probably help with fuel economy. But they are not using it in the new trucks so i am thinking something is not quite right with it.
 

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That's true but your temp still gets really high ,it will never boil over ,the heat distribution through out the motor is consistent, witch is grate for motors
 

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I'm just not sure it's a smart thing to put in my quad or the side by side ,I guess when it over heats you would stop and cool it down also clean the rad , but if you put that evens or any waterless coolant in ,when do you know when to stop , either you would have to really watch your temp gauge or your motor could seize up ,or am I all wrong on how hot it would run
 

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I just figured the people who make the antifreeze know more than us by a long shot, I am not talking about those that just make one brand of antifreeze, the companies that make it all. They have no reason to sell a puffed up snake oil.
 
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