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Are you talking about the throttle safety switch inside the throttle block? If so, what is the purpose of bypassing it? Seems to me that to bypass a pretty important safety device such as this is pretty stupid!
Buddy of mine always wears his tether, the one time he didn't --started it up--gave a little throttle and off she went. Ran across field and slamed into a tree. long story short--the throttle safety switch did not stop the sled and as far as i'm concerned I would not trust it. First thing I got for my new sled was a tether and I never start it without it on--Have fun--stay safe
 

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Wild story. Good to hear the guy will survive.

This would be right about when 'teth-air' should chime in. Cordless tether!, no excuse at that point.
 

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They were for a few years. They were replaced with the inferior throttle override circuit that we all bypass. Still mandatory for any organized racing event.

Are you talking about the throttle safety switch inside the throttle block? If so, what is the purpose of bypassing it? Seems to me that to bypass a pretty important safety device such as this is pretty stupid!

Buddy of mine always wears his tether, the one time he didn't --started it up--gave a little throttle and off she went. Ran across field and slamed into a tree. long story short--the throttle safety switch did not stop the sled and as far as i'm concerned I would not trust it. First thing I got for my new sled was a tether and I never start it without it on--Have fun--stay safe

Thats fine but it doesn't answer my question and it doesn't sound like a throttle safety switch failure caused your buddies crash.
 
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Should attach tether to the undone strap on the helmet, then when you crash the helmet will come off and not kill the engine; besides if you crash a lot it's inconvenient having to restart your sled all the time. You may be stuck as well but it's ok because you won't have the inconvenience of having to remove your helmet.
 

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A teth-air won't prevent your head or arm from being chewed off!!


Wild story. Good to hear the guy will survive.

This would be right about when 'teth-air' should chime in. Cordless tether!, no excuse at that point.
 

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all sleds should come stock with tethers. if not put one on!!
 

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For those with cats - they have a throttle safety switch that causes more grief then good - had a few of them crater at the worst possible time. I for one applied silicone under the handlebar kill switch so that you have to press and hold down to kill the engine, the throttle safety switches are unplugged on both the m8 and m1, but tether cords were installed on both, and they are used religiously. Haven't had a situation happen yet that I needed to use it (stuck WOT), but I'm glad it's there. Best wishes to those recovering, hope they are back in the saddle soon.
 

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Are you talking about the throttle safety switch inside the throttle block? If so, what is the purpose of bypassing it? Seems to me that to bypass a pretty important safety device such as this is pretty stupid!

They get bypassed because they're a PITA to keep adjusted properly on some sleds. Mine are intact. I take the time to adjust them properly.

Another thing to remember with tethers is to keep track of what they're wrapped around while you're riding. If you've seen Hickshow Productions FollowCam 2 this year you got to see a Nytro go upside down on top of Kyle Philpot on a steep climb, then run against the rev limiter until it shut down on low oil pressure. It kept running because his tether got wrapped around his bars and couldn't shut it down. It also kept his wrist tied to the bars so he couldn't get away from the sled as it was coming over and he ended up pinned under it. Made good video, but it was not a good situation. Cost him an engine too. :(
 

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A teth-air won't prevent your head or arm from being chewed off!!

It won't? Ever used one or care to know how they work? I have personally had a sled with a Teth-Air and can say 99% chance if your off the sled, the sled will be dead. It's not a 100% guarantee but neither is a regular tether. It is a lot better system though IMO. Plus if it's lost it can be bypassed unlike a regular tether.

Regular tethers are a frigging pain in the ass, the teth air is not bad at all but I outright refuse to use a regular tether. Way to many climbs the sled will die half way up because the POS comes out. No matter what you do, it is ALWAYS coming out. If you ride trails it's ok, or want a 4ft cord which would be more of a hazard......

And WTF is with so many sleds having throttles sticking? I know lefty's are really bad (good reason NOT to have them!!) but never ever ran into it in person with a throttle sticking. Maybe some simple preventive maintenance prevents it. Like cleaning snow out of it after a rollover, and checking it for sticking before you start the dahm thing!

ch!t can happen, but it should be a 1 in a million where a throttle sticks at most. Not a regular occurrence.
 

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Just happened today with Treemongrel's group. I have worn a tether (SKIDOO) attached to the front of my jacket (not the wrist) and never had the tether fail on me. When you put the tether in it's place, the code gets read and the thing can pull from side to side and still make the sled function properly.

Cyle pull your head out of your ass and answer this. If you fell into a tree well with the teth-air and the track was chewing up your head, do you think you can instinctually remember to put the wrist band behind your back? I think there is still safety risks with this device. Perhaps you need a new hobby, like something other than pretending to be a sledder.
 

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Thats fine but it doesn't answer my question and it doesn't sound like a throttle safety switch failure caused your buddies crash.
No the throttle safety switch didnt cause the crash--cable froze and when he hit the gas the sled took off, he wasn't ready for it and fell. The throttle didn't return and kept on going. The throttle safety switch is suppose to detect slack in the cable and shut the sled down-- it did not.
 

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Just happened today with Treemongrel's group. I have worn a tether (SKIDOO) attached to the front of my jacket (not the wrist) and never had the tether fail on me. When you put the tether in it's place, the code gets read and the thing can pull from side to side and still make the sled function properly.

Cyle pull your head out of your ass and answer this. If you fell into a tree well with the teth-air and the track was chewing up your head, do you think you can instinctually remember to put the wrist band behind your back? I think there is still safety risks with this device. Perhaps you need a new hobby, like something other than pretending to be a sledder.

As I said, have YOU worn it sledding to see when/how it will kill a sled? I have personally done it and if your under the sled, it's dead. You don't have to put it behind your back to kill the sled, that is only ONE of the ways it kills a sled. Also got a distance range. Know the product before you try and say what it does/doesn't do.

I wouldn't ever be dumb enough to ride a sled with a lefty that is known for getting stuck WOT like a LOT of WOT issues are caused from. So no i'm not worried. If I fall off and the sled is idling, I could careless. And like I said, was it the riders fault it stuck open? I would almost bet a LARGE part of them are rider error.

There is also safety risks with a regular tether. What if the cable breaks? Or any of the PLASTIC (in the cold) breaks that it's attached to.....As I said IMO the teth air is a safer system. If you want to go crazy use both. But no device will replace common sense when riding, which is the BEST safety device.

If you so much as pull the tether out to much, the sled goes into limp mode and won't rev up or dies completely and your fawked in the middle of a hill (can be a LOT more unsafe then no tether). Had it happen a million times on multiple skidoos. And huge issues trying to get it on properly when it's on/off so much. Tried wrist and jacket, so much as lean back to much, or to much to the side it can nudge it out of place.

Pretending to be a sledder? Ok..........
 
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, Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid Cyle?

Me and everyone I ride with never have an issue with the tehters, Sure at first it may not correspond, but you wiggle it and it reads the code and you are good to go unless you totally unplug it. It doesn't 'half way' un plug or anything like that.
I would rather trust something that isn't relying on batteries, or a radio frequency. It is better than not wearing a tether, but not the best IMO.

cyle, I hope you approve of this.. Get a new hobby man.
 
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